At what point is this child abuse? Trans kids.

[o_O.Q]

Hiku said:

o_O.Q said:

i suppose you aren't going to address you contradicting yourself?

"my point is that you are identifying them as asexual then claiming that their sexuality has nothing to do with their identity"

"I said "Identity is not the same as sexuality". I did not say it "has nothing to do with it"."

"It can be part of someone's identity. And it may not be for others.
And in the case of some asexual people, sexuality is not a factor."

It would help if you could explain how you perceive a contradiction, rather than just highlighting text. 

~Edit~
Ok I'm going to clarify what I've said while I wait for your reply.

I originally said that "Identity is not the same as sexuality."
As in it's not the defining factor. Because it can vary from person to person.
For an asexual person for example, it may not even be a factor.

What is your issue with that?

o_O.Q said:
you keep bringing up my history... as i've said i'm almost certain that in 8 years i have been banned for "flaming","trolling" whatever around 3 times
you don't think this is a ridiculous attempt at poisoning the well?

You said "if i remember correctly, i've been banned about 3 times".
So I thought you meant in general.
If you're referring to bans in relation to trolling, flaming, and antagonizing people, then it's still a couple more than what you suggested.
But it's not just bans that are relevant, but warnings as well. As are other factors.

o_O.Q said:
"And since you brought it up, I've been here for 5 years. Never got banned."

i didn't bring it up, you're the person who is running away from the topic of discussion to talk about my history on this site and mother of god seriously? you need to take me under your wing and teach me to be as good a person as you are

I brought up your history because you seem to be at it again.
You brought up your specific amount of bans in relation to how long you've been here, as if to say "it's not that bad considering it's over 8 years".
But it is.

o_O.Q said:
"Let's put it this way. A group of people identify with "fighting to reduce the differences between men and women".
Am I supposed to believe that your're not aware that your comment will probably provoke angry responses or arguments from them, because they find your comparison unfair?"

no i expect people who discuss these issues to be mature enough to discuss the ideas at hand reasonably, i mean i think everyone here has that expectation otherwise you wouldn't be a moderator would you?

Looks like you're not even trying to come across sincere any more. Unless you want people to believe you've only come across mature and rational posts. In which case you may be the first one.
Moderator applicants go through an evaluation process.

o_O.Q said:
"And I'm asking you to answer my question pertaining to the very first post in this exchange"

this is not true, we were talking about asexual people and you have now decided to throw that discussion away entirely and derail it into something else

This is my first reply to you: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9001274

Did I not tell you "quote them on it." before you asked me about my views on gender equal rights?
But you want me to elaborate on gender equal rights before you even establish that your comment applies to specific members and comments here, derailing the topic further?

And you highlighting some text is not a discussion. Tell me what you're thinking. I thought you forgot to add your comment to it in your previous post, but seems like you wanted me to pick up on a contradiction you perceive. You know there have been times when one person perceives a contradiction where there is none due to a misunderstanding or miscommunication, or where the other person does not?
I'll be able to respond to your comment about your perceived contradiction regarding asexual people when you explain where and how you perceive a contradiction there.

o_O.Q said:
i was speaking more specifically about posters who will decry the gendered issues women face in today's society(which are of course an important issue), but now are implying that to be a woman all that is required is a change of dress

Quote those conflicting comments, and tag the users.
Because in your original comment you said "the people normally fighting to reduce the differences between men and women."
That's a lot of people.

o_O.Q said:
"Your second most recent moderation came as a result of your 'passion' for discussing equal rights for women"

lol it was because i posted a gif my dude, you're really going to argue that i'm some type of monster because i posted a gif? lol

how many times have i been moderated for whatever you are accusing me of doing?

It was not because of a gif. And there was no gif in the post.
It was because you were adamant about arguing women's rights in a topic that was not about that, even after a moderator warned you to stop.

Similar to what you seem to be doing here.

As for 'how many times', in regards to flaming, trolling, antagonizing, etc, one time is one too many. And as I said above, it's more than the amount you suggested when it comes to bans alone. Add in the warnings, and it's quite the list.

"What is your issue with that?"

i pointed out the contradiction in what you said previously... if that wasn't your intent so be it

"If you're referring to bans in relation to trolling, flaming, and antagonizing people, then it's still a couple more than what you suggested.
But it's not just bans that are relevant, but warnings as well. As are other factors."

i'm talking about bans, how many bans have occurred over that time period? i don't know how to view this information as a regular user

what are the stats for other users?

"I brought up your history because you seem to be at it again."

how so?

"You brought up your specific amount of bans in relation to how long you've been here, as if to say "it's not that bad considering it's over 8 years"."

yeah my intent was to say that as you have pointed out i am not a perfect person but i'm still not a full on demon, do you disagree with that?

i mean if we round the numbers it comes out at about 1 ban for every 2 years

"Looks like you're not even trying to come across sincere any more."

why do you feel that way?

"And you highlighting some text is not a discussion."

lol i pointed out that you were contradicting yourself? what else was i supposed to do? put up neon signs or something? 

"but seems like you wanted me to pick up on a contradiction you perceive."

that i perceive? you mean to tell me that you don't see the contradiction?

"You know there have been times when one person perceives a contradiction where there is none due to a misunderstanding or miscommunication"

well i suppose, but it doesn't change the fact that before clarification the contradiction has still occurred right?

"I'll be able to respond to your comment about your perceived contradiction regarding asexual people when you explain where and how you perceive a contradiction there."

if you can't see how this

"It can be part of someone's identity. And it may not be for others.
And in the case of some asexual people, sexuality is not a factor."

contradicts this

"I said "Identity is not the same as sexuality". I did not say it "has nothing to do with it"

then the only reasonable conclusion is that you don't know what a contradiction is

"Because in your original comment you said "the people normally fighting to reduce the differences between men and women.""... "in this topic" was the full statement and obviously it was a generalisation

"It was not because of a gif. And there was no gif in the post."

if i remember correctly the moderator told me it had something to do with gifs but i could be wrong

can you post the context here so i can see what you are referring to?

"It was because you were adamant about arguing women's rights in a topic that was not about that, even after a moderator warned you to stop."

why do you think its problematic for someone to be enthusiastic about women's rights?

"Quote those conflicting comments, and tag the users."

i already did with one of them since i was engaged in discussion with him

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9001190

"Gender is a social construct in the sense that what each gender is expected to do and how each gender is expected to behave are mostly socially created and have nothing to do with biology."

he states here that gender has nothing to do with biology and is socially created, are we in agreement on that?

"As for 'how many times', in regards to flaming, trolling, antagonizing, etc, one time is one too many."

is the policy now to permaban users after one infraction?

"And as I said above, it's more than the amount you suggested when it comes to bans alone. Add in the warnings, and it's quite the list."

can i get some numbers?