At what point is this child abuse? Trans kids.

[o_O.Q]

Hiku said:

o_O.Q said:

"They don't have to.
But asexual people exist."

my point is that you are identifying them as asexual then claiming that their sexuality has nothing to do with their identity... doesn't that strike you as ironic?

First of all when repeating something specific someone said that's available for you to copy and paste, try not to misquote them.
I said "Identity is not the same as sexuality". I did not say it "has nothing to do with it".

And are you saying you do not understand the distinction between these two concepts?

"Not the same as" meaning it's not the defining characteristic of someone's identity, or gender.
It can be part of someone's identity. And it may not be for others.
And in the case of some asexual people, sexuality is not a factor.
Some women are attracted to other women, etc.

And secondly, I'm 'identifying' them as asexual?
Are you playing semantics here?

o_O.Q said:
i did not make a strawman(since i could post examples fo this actually happening) 

You should do that instead. Because often times misunderstandings occur. Case in point, like how you were convinced that I meant that sexuality has 'nothing to do with' identity. Even though you could just read what I said.
But instead you're ridiculing anyone who recognize themselves in "fighting to reduce the differences between men and women", without singling anyone out. Which conveniently absolves you from having to back up your claim, or being retorted.

o_O.Q said:

and i do not know what flamebaiting is"Fighting for gender equal rights in society does not mean they think there is no difference between men and women.You know that."i'd appreciate it very much if you didn't try to tell me what i actually believewhat does fighting for gender equal rights mean exactly? are you implying that we have one set of laws for men and another for women?as far as i understand we have one set of laws and we apply those laws to both genders, can you elaborate on what you mean by fighting for gender equal rights?

I'd be more inclined to believe that you don't know what you were doing if it weren't for your very extensive history of getting in trouble for antagonizing others, flaming, trolling, etc. I can say that you know exactly what you're doing, even if you don't appreciate that.

And rather than asking me to give you a crash course in the fight for social equality, which I can already see how it'll devolve given you've gotten in trouble over this very subject before, how about you quote the specific comments you were referring to earlier?

That way those people get a chance to respond and defend themselves, rather than it just being one sided with you taking jabs at them, and the rest of us can see if they really are the equivalent of flip-flopping, as you claim.

"my point is that you are identifying them as asexual then claiming that their sexuality has nothing to do with their identity"

"I said "Identity is not the same as sexuality". I did not say it "has nothing to do with it"."

"It can be part of someone's identity. And it may not be for others.
And in the case of some asexual people, sexuality is not a factor."

"You should do that instead. Because often times misunderstandings occur. Case in point, like how you were convinced that I meant that sexuality has 'nothing to do with' identity."

"my point is that you are identifying them as asexual then claiming that their sexuality has nothing to do with their identity"

"It can be part of someone's identity. And it may not be for others.
And in the case of some asexual people, sexuality is not a factor."

"But instead you're ridiculing anyone who recognize themselves in "fighting to reduce the differences between men and women""

i ridiculed no one, you make it sound like a crime to be amused at things

"I'd be more inclined to believe that you don't know what you were doing if it weren't for your very extensive history of getting in trouble for antagonizing others, flaming, trolling, etc."

i've been on this site now for i think 8 years and over that period of time if i remember correctly, i've been banned about 3 times

the first time was for using an image that wasn't proportioned correctly and the other two were for arguments... are you really trying to tell me that this equates to an "extensive history"?

"I can say that you know exactly what you're doing, even if you don't appreciate that."

i don't because there's nothing to discuss if you just make the assertion that you understand what my intent is 

what am i supposed to say to that? stop calling me a liar?

"And rather than asking me to give you a crash course in the fight for social equality"

i did not i asked you a couple simple questions in order to clarify what your position is and you appear to have refused to do so, which is of course ok, its a free country but don't pretend as if i've asked some unreasonably enormous task of you

to reiterate the questions are:

"what does fighting for gender equal rights mean exactly? are you implying that we have one set of laws for men and another for women?as far as i understand we have one set of laws and we apply those laws to both genders, can you elaborate on what you mean by fighting for gender equal rights?"

"how it'll devolve given you've gotten in trouble over this very subject before"

i have never been banned for a discussion on this topic before if i remember correctly, because as far as i know my posts have always been helpful and informative with regards to my opinions and pertinent and concise with regards to my questions

i find it alarming that you have a different opinion of me