sundin13 said:
Quick side note, I see no reason to dignify o.o's obviously bad faith posts with a response and I suggest others do the same.
eva01beserk said:
But its not a kids believe when the kid has no idea what its talking about. A kid dosent know what it wants, dosent even know whats right or wrong. A kid would die in a day or 2 if left on its own. What makes you think it can decide this. Its like a religion, if taught from early enough a kid will not question anything and in some cases be extreme like hating others,, wanting gays killed and other shit. Yes they grow out of it when the parents or church dont have as much influence on them but it still makes thouse kids outcast in a regular school for the believe they dont hold anymore. It leaves scars as much as you say is reversible.
Parents or guardians should definitely force their believe on young children. Its only natural to live the same as a family. But as the kid grows up if the kid does not like the way of life the kid should be allowed to be what it wants. Its called parenting. Be there when they need you, and let them be their own person when they dont need you. The key is knowing when kids need you or not.
Not downplaying what any groups suffered. Im downplaying what society in large considers abuse these days. I think people have become this oversensitive crystal that is going to brake unless everything goes 100% their way. Again, I dont need to go far to look at some points:
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You continue to say that a kid doesn't understand, however you have yet to actually back that up. Others have provided information indicating that children do understand gender and on occasion do experience gender dysphoria.
Besides that, again you use the mistreatment of transgendered individuals as an argument against transition. It's still a bad argument.
Then from there, you get into a truly bizarre parenting point which you've already made clear doesn't go both ways. You say that parents should force their beliefs on children but as soon as the conversation turns away from forcing cis identity to forcing trans identity that position seems to quickly go away.
And finally you use a silly anecdote to again make light of the abuse that trans individuals face.
It appears that we've reached the end of the conversation.
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If that is what you took from what Ive been saying. Then yes, this is the end.
