At what point is this child abuse? Trans kids.

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sundin13 said:

eva01beserk said:

Wich brings me to the underline point. We are talking about children here. Some as young as 3. I know nobody here is claiming to give hormones to a todler. But I do belive molding a kid into a diferent mindset cuz it sait something while barely talking is worst.

And at bold. This is what I mean. I mentioned before that oversensitiveness is  major issue because people havent been told no. People call victimization or hate by somebody disagree. Bullies where wort before. I remember being beating for no reason as a kid. Now saying man arent women sends some kids to the psychologist. People should not live in bubles. QoL also does not mean much these days as not having the latest iphones also sends some into depression. 

Again, we are discussing allowing a child to make their own choices (reversible choices). As others have said numerous times, the question of forced perspective goes both ways. You say that molding a kid into a different mindset is "worst", yet this applies far more to asserting cis-identity upon a child than it does to allowing the child to make their own choices about gender identity. Yes, individuals shouldn't force their perspectives on children. Let this statement go both ways.

As for rest, I don't think that you should downplay the abuses suffered by transgendered individuals. That's a pretty bad look.

But its not a kids believe when the kid has no idea what its talking about. A kid dosent know what it wants, dosent even know whats right or wrong. A kid would die in a day or 2 if left on its own. What makes you think it can decide this. Its like a religion, if taught  from early enough a kid will not question anything and in some cases be extreme like hating others,, wanting gays killed and other shit. Yes they grow out of it when the parents or church dont have as much influence on them but it still makes thouse kids outcast in a regular school for the believe they dont hold anymore. It leaves scars as much as you say is reversible.

Parents or guardians should definitely force their believe on young children. Its only natural to live the same as a family. But as the kid grows up if the kid does not like the way of life the kid should be allowed to be what it wants. Its called parenting. Be there when they need you, and let them be their own person when they dont need you. The key is knowing when kids need you or not.

Not downplaying what any groups suffered. Im downplaying what society in large considers abuse these days. I think people have become this oversensitive crystal that is going to brake unless everything goes 100% their way. Again, I dont need to go far to look at some points: