At what point is this child abuse? Trans kids.

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John2290 said:

Torillian said:

Show me the research that indicates that supporting a child in being trans is as dangerous as the things you decided to relate to it for some reason and I'll concede. I showed you research indicating that there is no danger. Show me the opposite. Honestly getting a little tired of you ignoring the research and claiming (without any backing) that supporting a child in their view of being transgender is equivalent to supporting their decision to harm themselves with illicit substances or go to war. 

You believe this research to come out of people with no agenda, money goes into this. Parma companies back this research to sell hormone treatment. Follow the money, yes i won't believe the research until there is zero funding from pharma corps in this area and non profit researchers. If it defies common sense and logic at the most fundamental of levels (for example, fracking research indicates no environmental impact at a local level) then it matters not about research because the evidence of wrong doing is clear as day yo see with your own eyes. There is also the matter of time, it has been such a short period of time that this has hit a large enough geoup size, even the research agree they cannot know the full effects long term. 

Look up the horror stories of trans adults regretting their decisions and the suicide rate. There once was a pregnancy drug called, Thalidomide, people put faith in the research of that drug yet it resulted in the destruction and sifferig of many, many lives.

You believe the claim that everyone doing this research always has a bad agenda and only does it for money.  Pharma is a problem well beyond hormone treatment.  It does not negate the benefits, when done right and the right time. 

You clearly have your own hard line stance.  It does not defy common sense and logic for children (older than 3 obviously) to start to get evaluated and eventually begin to transition (just before puberty) to the hormonal gender they feel they really are.

Yes clearly their have been mistakes and clearly we need to do better in our research and acceptance of research with more peer review, more independent research, and counter research.  Which is why we are often doing just that.  Psychological evaluation now is way better than it was 20-30 years ago, certainly way better than 50 years ago.  Also consider the amount of people committing suicide over their sexuality that were not given the opportunity/were refused to be able to change.