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LivingMetal on 20 April 2019
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SpokenTruth said:

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LivingMetal said:

1). Are you saying slavery was never a problem?  2). Are you saying character depicted in ways that do not favor your personal criteria is slavery?  I express my maturity by giving people freedom of choice, me being tolerant of that choice, and me working on common grounds while agreeing to disagree to work to a general greater resolution.  3). I don't get self-righteous in the name of "maturity."

1). For many societies in the past, they didn't consider it a problem.  It wasn't morally wrong to them.  We obviously know better now.  We have matured as a society.

2). Oh, no.  Not at all.  There is not correlation I'm trying to draw between the two other than things in the past that were morally acceptable are later recognized as wrong or even reprehensible.

3). You are confusing personal maturity with social maturity.  What is acceptable and moral in any given society is a wide range individually but as a whole group...that's the social morality, social norms and customs. See point 1 above.

LivingMetal said:

Did YOU read my post?  This type of reasoning is NOT faulty when applied to something that is NOT faulty to begin with, creative freedom and consumer choice.  And WHO are you to apply you're preferences of the acceptance of certain societal norms and customs on everyone else?  That's FAULTY.

I never said "creative freedom and consumer choice" were faulty.  I said that "just because something in the past was acceptable means it should be acceptable today" is faulty. 

And it's not me pushing my preferences on anyone.  Sony isn't changing policy because I told them to.  It's society doing that. Societies change over time. What was once acceptable can become unacceptable - and vice versa.  In fact, I'd say far more things have been acceptable over the years than unacceptable.

DEAD WRONG.  I was saying that creative freedom and consumer choice is not faulty.  That was my context from the very beginning, and it still is.  You're the one who misinterpreted my original post and came up with such an asinine example of slavery that had NOTHING to do with it.  You made a mistake, and you were called out on it.  Then, you attempted to sound intelligence by backing peddling on that mistake.  But all you're doing is insulting our intelligence.  So man up to your mistake as a display of the maturity that you preach.  Own it.  And guess what society is made of..... PEOPLE!  People such as "you" and "I" are the ones who are influencing Sony to change their policy.  So in principle, you are pushing your preferences on others.  So let me reiterate that attempting to sound intelligent when your wrong does nothing to further the "MAtURitY Of soCIetY." Next time you say something, better make sure it lives up to your handle.