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well that's probably why they are not doing an update as scheduled.... probably to make a bigger one later... and I totally agree about that

"When MS stated that the 360 has the hardcore market I believe this is what they meant. Hardcore gamers will pay a small fee to play games against a community of others as long as the service is fully encompassed. Going forward I expect to see some large developments in online gaming for the 360 and can imagine how enormous the experience could be."

hell I even stated before that' i'd probably play less online if it was free... the only fact that you have to pay is already screening people... and i believe it's a good thing...