Borderlands 3 PC is releasing exclusively on the Epic Store in September

[Chazore]

Azzanation said:

Chazore said:

VR is taking off now. It's been popular with Sony and PC before that when you gander at Youtube. Dismissing 3 games by Valve is honestly hand waving what they're making. It's honestly sound massive like "make Hl3 or sod off" to me. I want Valve to make actual games, games that aren't a seuel to a dead game, with one writer left, because I don't want it to turn to utter garbage. 

One single game from Epic isn't going to please everybody either, just like how a large chunk of this planet doesn't like Minecraft. If you're going to use an argument like that, to do away with 3 games that have spent years in dev, then the same can be used against other games as well. Just because they aren't your cuppa, doesn't mean they are no one's cuppa.

I'm not even into VR atm, but I'm going to give props to Valve for not only getting 3 VR games out, but also a headset of their own and a very nifty set of knuckle controllers, which for what they can do, do a far better job than what's currently out there on the market. 

"future timed", yeah, but they land on Steam, so really, at the end of the day, Steam users get Valve's 3 VR games and those timed games in the end, and since Valve have more features and more games on their store to begin with, that still gives them the superior advantage. That and the store key deals as well, which Epic hardly has, nor wants to support for "exclusive" titles.

What game will this be pray tell?. Again, very cock sure about the future like your previous talk about MS and knowing the definitive future. Tell me what definitive, definitely going to happen future, where Epic releases this game that absolutely everyone will play, where they basically become akin to Google in popularity (because the smug guy recently talks like he's going to become that big, and you're obviously setting up this unannounced game to being something earth shattering). No there is no difference, this is you just downplaying anything Valve could ever possibly do, and I bet you'd be willing to use that last part as a mirror retort, to do away with what I just said, instead of realizing the actual difference. 

Not everyone wants HL3. I don't, because the majority of writers are gone, time has passed greatly, and the spark that was once had has very greatly diminished. Now it's just a small bunch egging on Valve to make whatever they can of a game, without the original writers, to a point where it's clearly and obviously not going to live up to their expectations, to which those same people will grab bats and start beating Valve "why didn't you make it perfect like we asked?", without fucking known the circumstances for why the dream is dead. I hate and will loathe people who wish to see something tarnished, just for the sake of a dopamine fix I don't want new shitty writers added in. I want the original writers back, I want the original spark, not some shitty 343 type spark, where it clearly ended up fucking with the lore of another certain game. I've seen it in god damn movies and I don't want to see it in games. Same goes for Fable.

People that don't care for the actual substance and lore, have no right to talk about wanting anything, quite literally, get out for anyone that doesn't care about what makes something special. I also don't want a Hl 4,5,6,7,8,9, you know, like Ass Creed. Spamming franchises into the ground doesn't make them objectively good either. This desire to spam something, until *you* get bored of it, is what ruins gaming, because in all that time, we could be getting brand new IP's, brand new ideas for another game, rather than the same game over and over again. 

I look forward to you in depth review and talk of Xen when it arrives. I'd like to see the dedication to this franchise, that I've only heard your interest in, within the past year. (Also, stop by the main PC forum, even some console users are asking for rig help).

It sounds like you've been under a rock, because in all honesty, you haven't been very involved with PC gaming on here until a year and a half at best. You've made the odd few comments, but nothing in terms of making your own PC related threads, that aren't designed to signal boost Epic or the Win 10 store, or going on about an unreleased HL episode.

That's a shame for you. Could always grab them on that #1 store of yours in the meantime. I've grabbed myself Tropico 6, since those devs aren't being total douchebags and signing exclusivity deals. Was originally going to look into buying the latest Anno, but Ubisoft clearly wants to pull out of Steam, and thus doesn't want my money, so I guess I don't want any of their games anymore. Also the latest Two Point Hospital DLC is out, as well as Seven's DLC (free of course).

Okay where do I start with this one.. I wont let this drag on so ill try to keep it simple.

VR is a thing, but its not a big thing and a thing that interest me. If MS or Nintendo ripped out a VR head set ill be saying the exact same thing. So Valve making 3 VR games will be dismissed because I don't want to use VR or game on VR. I played PSVR and its a great casual thing but not something I want to dedicate my gaming to. I am sure there are many gamers out there who say the same thing. Unless Valve make an absolute VR masterpiece game I might consider it but its not something I want to do and that's fork out half a grand for an accessory for a couple games.. You even said you are not into VR atm. I don't give props to games I don't play. Ill give props to when I play them and atm those 3 VR games I wont be playing anytime soon, id rather play Borderlands 3 but oh well. I am not one to wait a year to play a game. I rather play a game when the Buzz is still there. 

What game will Epic make that everyone will play? Probably not a hard one to assume, Fortnite 2

I agree with you about the HL game, I don't want a rushed out game, I want a masterpiece and I am happy to wait another 10 years for. Not sure why you keep thinking I want a HL game right now with no effort. 

Yes it would be nice if Valve made new IPs and not continue the trend like Assassins Creed etc. The thing is they only gave us a Card Game.. That's what we waited years for. Cool there making 3 VR games but that's for the very small VR audience. Its like Sony making the next Killzone game on PS Vita. Its great there making it but how many gamers will actually go out and buy a Vita to play it?.

So because I haven't expressed myself on VGchartz on PC gaming a lot, that means I am not a PC gamer or someone that dedicates themselves to PC gaming? I have probably been gaming on PC a lot longer than you, I am not hiding my Steam account from anyone. Like I said, add me on Steam and the evidence is there. I have also put in 12,932 hours in World of Warcraft, which I am still playing to this very day. That's a little example of my time invested.

You and me are completely different when it comes to gaming. I don't boycott games if there not available to me. If the game is good enough I might jump in, I don't let a service stop me from having a good time. I got into Xbox because of Halo and only for Halo. You seem to hold a grudge against the game and will ignore it, but the only thing you are ignoring is the fun you would have with this game because its on a different launcher. Each to our own.

That still doesn't stop the fact that VR has a good number of users out there, not in the few thousand, but millions, maybe not casual billions, but if you consider casuals great for the industry, then I'd imagine you'd see the same with MT's and other practices that we're not too fond of.

I'll keep that in mind for when MS specially talk or boast about VR though. Nintendo not so much, since it's not your jam, and it's not much of Nintendo's either. 

Also, there are many out there who do like VR, so playing another by the numbers game seems rather pointless. 

"unless Valve make an absolute masterpiece game" so never then?. We'll go with never, since it's the easiest "future" predicted answer to give at this current time, based on what Valve hasn't been doing, because that makes it 100% easy to predict the near future. 

I give props to the fact that they are even making games, while Epic sit on their arse with their FN money, the same way we claim Steam is sitting on theirs with their Steam money. At least out of both parties, we've got a client with the most features, getting a store revamp, 3 new games, a reboot of a recent released game and a VR headset with controllers. I'll take the pros on this over the semi con, which has yet to produce meaningful benefits to me as a consumer (Can't forget them Reagan trickle down economics now can we).

So you're basically wanting more of the same, not anything new?. Also, Fornite 2 doesn't sound creative, what else could they add, that literally destroys literally everyone, blowing them away in a hail of nuclear dust?, because I'm sure as hell waiting for that insane level of creativity within something called "Fornite 2".

I don't think you do. I don't want another HL game, not until we get all those writers back. I want the original spark, not another 343 industries all over again, complete with "well we think the lore goes like this" bs excuses either. I also don't think you're willing to wait 10+ years, because you sure aren't happy at waiting right at this moment, "come on Valve, don't let Epic kick you up the arse/Valve deserves a hard kick, get them to make that HL3". You clearly want it as soon as, and not 10 years later. You want it rushed whatever the cost, otherwise you're going to have to take back that chanting from weeks ago, about how they ened to get that Hl3 out.

Yeah, they gave us Dota 2 before that as well...

Valve are still making games though, just not at the speed of the PLC companies (because they have an obligation to fulfill investor desires, hence rushed and shoddy looking "AAA" games each 1-2 years, instead of 5-7).

Funnily enough, the previous KZ didn't set the world on fire either, and that was on the console with the larger audience, so really, it's the ip at fault as well as the devs, not the user or the console itself. 

Please don't play such a petty game. Even Basil talks to us on the main thread, as well as Bofferbrauer2 and mZuzek. Those people actually do show up in the main thread and talk/ask questions/discuss about PC gaming, both hw and software. You just create your own threads about Steam being what it is/isn't and Epic threads. I don't see you making threads that talked about PC games before, like where were you when Two Point Hospital came out, or Frostpunk, Planet Coaster etc?. You had every chance to make and participate in topics on games like those, but you didn't. Instead you were heavily invested in the MS ones.

You can absolutely game on a PC or a toaster, but you can have and everyone absolutely does have core preferences that they follow. Even an Xbox fan like Colteastwood proudly admits he's an Xbox/MS fan first, "PC" gamer second, but at least he admits his core pref, rather than trying to hide and pretend to being some "neutral" fence sitter.

Mate, I've been gaming on PC for years. You playing the "older than you=more wisdom" approach is laughable, because you lack the clarity to see your flaws in what you say. Also, my profile is viewable by friends, just not randoms on Steam, because like it or not, I don't like having random plebs coming onto my profile and talking shit about what avatar I have or what I've got written in my bio. I'm not going back to the shitty days of X360, where people could shit talk you for kicking their ass in a game and sending you threats. Steam gave us that option to do so, to vilify or make it seem like a cowardly choice is childish at best. 

If you're putting so much time into these games, then why not talk about them more often?. Where are your WoW threads, that talk about the current events going on within the Alliance & Horde, or what Sylvanas has planned later on down the road?. You talk about these games for sure, but you don't talk about them where they can be seen by others, ie; within a main thread or creating your own to discuss them. I've been a fan of Planet Coaster and even I made a thread about that, same for other games I've liked and played before. 

We are different, but you're not really one who talks the talk, rather than doing the talk and the walk at the same time. You don't put value into things that many others do, such as modding and pro consumer practices. 

You look down on anything that isn't taken on by you, hence why you look down on the boycotting, but hey, it's easy to call it a boycott if you don't want to buy something, speaking your words or not, it's an easy claim to make.

Yeah, you don't let anything stop you from getting what's called a "fix". You don't really have anywhere close to the standards I have, and that's why you deem them "pointless", because they oppose your own (otherwise you wouldn't be tossing in the boycott and "service" remarks).

I've no grudge against Halo at all. I've disdain for MS, because they still wish to cling onto their console brand, giving them more attention over their original platform. They still do, no matter what jargon you can throw out. Until they literally drop their console side, they are still going to put more focus onto it, because that's how they want it and I'm absolutely fre to disagree with that and voice my say. I miss the old MS, the one that actually used to care about their original platform, not the MS of now. 

I still have my own fun though, just not in your way, and tbh, I'm glad I don't follow your way, because that'd be bad for me personally. Isn't going to stop me from opposing your view though.