Animal Liberation Now!!

[DonFerrari]

Immersiveunreality said:

Darwinianevolution said:

Again, then the answer is buy food from producers that do take care of their livestock, not just changing people's diet in such a fundamental way. People would be much open to animal's rights if they heard "Buy meat from farmers that take care of their cows" instead of "Stop eating cow".

And about the human control thing: Wouldn't it be the other way around? Species that go extinct for reasons not related to human interference should not really afect us in a moral sense, but don't we have a responsability to mantain species created by humanity for the sake of humanity, especially those that would either go extinct in the wild, or they would completely mess up the environement? If the logical conclussion of veganism became the extinction of many species, wouldn't many people (including animal activists) abandon those ideas for the sake of those animals?

First bolded: yes that is the answer for people that have money to spare but the meat coming from producers that do take care of their livestock is more expensive and that results into people buying the cheaper less controlled meats and making it less expensive is also never an option because the farmers that care about the livestock would go broke because they're the ones that do invest into better feeding and environments for the animals and that needs to be translated into the profits to be viable.

Second bolded:That is a very loaded question and i partly agree with it because yes species that go extinct for reasons not related to human interference should not make us the moral criminals if we let its extinctence just proceed but the animals we control are not comparable with the free animals of the wild and i would rather use the term slave for the donkeys you mentioned earlier so when this extermination translates into no more forced slavery work for lots of unhappy animals than i might be not so sad we could lose a species over that.

If people wants to discuss or live the moral, market also adapts, there is space for organic vegetable food that is much more expensive than regular one. So you can have independent party audit and certify the production (as jew and muslim demands for kosher and jalal, and we have several places in Brazil that abide and make a lot of money with it) and producers can sell it more expensive to who think this is an important point. You don't need government intervention for that.

John2290 said:
Ew, a quick look at people supporting this on twitter and these same people are for Islams halal tradition and giving Islamic people the right to have food where the method of slaughter is to slowly kill an animal by bleeding it out, a process that can take 5+ minutes of pain and fear to the animal.
Oh, how ironic and hypocritical.

Muslims are more evolved so they are free to choose, you aren't. Now out with the joke, some movements have this type of hypocrise so internal to them that they don't even see it.