Climate change is inconsequential (because Peak Oil is a bigger issue)

[o_O.Q]

the-pi-guy said:

fatslob-:O said:

It's actually a huge intractable problem to replace fossil fuels with solar energy because of the fact that the former by itself is an extremely good medium for storing energy but we have no viable solution for the latter. If we mined all of the lithium in this world, we'd only have enough to create roughly 1 billion mid-sized cars with similar mileage so North America and Europe would buy all of the lithium if they could leaving nothing else in the process for the rest of the world or other appliances/utilities ... 

Most estimates on the numbers of cars in the world are only in the 1 to 1.2 billion range.  

There are only about 570 million cars in the European Union and the US combined.

There are other ways to make batteries that don't use Lithium.  This also ignores possible future innovations with batteries.   

fatslob-:O said:

If being green comes at the cost of deindustrialization which inevitable leads to austerity then it's going to be a very harsh future like we observe now with how the gilet juanes in France reacts to a price increase in gas ... 

Well, long term we are also going to have to do something about gas.  There is only so much oil and coal to go around.  

o_O.Q said:

"But the climate has been consistent for the past 10,000 years.  "

yes since the last ice age, how many more years do you wager that would have been the case?

That's actually not true.  We're actually still in an ice age.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Cenozoic_Ice_Age

and what are we going to do when this ice age ends?