DonFerrari said:
Shiken said:
The problem with that logic is that it is not different than me saying, "well if you take europe out and only look at US, the Switch is constantly ahead of PS4 even without Japan."
It is all or nothing, there is no other way. Yes it is impressive how well the PS4 is doing going into its 6th year, but that does not change the fact that the Switch is normally ahead of it this year. You say you are not pro PS4, but you comment is one that would only be made by someone who is teying to downplay Switch sales as it is irrelevant information.
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Way to go and make it like an attack on other user and stealth accusation of fanboyism.
Bofferbrauer2 said:
There may be better examples, but The Division 2 was the biggest of the bunch this week, and it certainly also helped that it got some tailwind from DMC 5. But, yeah, like Zorg said, it's just an example.
Switch currently competes against a PS4 with all those game releases with nothing and still come out on top most of the time. What do you think will be the situation in Summer and Fall when the positions are switched around and Switch is getting all the games, but not the PS4?
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Division 2 could have been the biggest of the week, that is irrelevant, just show that the week hadn't any title to push PS4 HW.
End of the year certainly Switch will sell more than PS4, the point I made is that I think it hardly will be a 5+M gap.
zorg1000 said:
The YoY decline will continue at a similar rate in Q2. Days Gone has the potential to be a solid system seller but I doubt it comes close to what God of War did last April. May has Rage 2 & Crash Racing in June vs Detroit & The Crew 2 so expect those those months to be down as well.
What big games are confirmed for the 2nd half of the year? The annual sports and Call of Duty are coming but their console moving ability gets smaller each year as these will be the 7th entry of those titles.
Some safe bets are Doom 2 from Bethesda vs Fallout 76 last year, Borderlands 3 from Take-Two vs Red Dead 2 last year, Watch Dogs from Ubisoft vs Assassin's Creed last year, Star Wars from EA vs Battlefield V last year, Last of Us 2 from Sony vs Spiderman last year.
Let's say it's a tie overall when it comes to big games in the 2nd half of the year, that likely means a notable decline as it's harder for titles to sell consoles when you get late into a consoles cycle.
15 million for PS4 requires a ~17% YoY decline and 20m for Switch requires a ~22% increase which shouldn't be too hard to imagine since PS4 is currently down by over 20% and Switch up by about 28%.
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Are we going to assume none of the 3 most expected games for PS4 won't release this year? TLOU, Death Stranding and Ghost of Tsushijima.
I expect PS4 to be about 16M and Switch 19M.
MasonADC said:
I would think 20 million for switch is much more likely to happen this year than next
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I didn't mean it is more likely that Switch will be 20M next year, I meant that 5M gap is almost certain next year.
Shiken said:
There is a lot wrong with this post. Right off the bat, it is worth noting that the Switch has offered more to play in less than two years than the PS4 did in two entire years. So the whole, "offering nothing new to play" notion is a joke. I still remember defending the PS4 during the "indie station 4", "PS3.5", and "PS4 has no gamez" days that Sony fans seem to forget about. Most of what it offered was cross gen ports for the longest time, and the first real notable exclusive was Bloodborne ,over two years after the PS4 was released. Meanwhile the Switch has given us several high quality exclusives already, two of which were GotY contenders, and one of which WON GotY 2017.
The Switch is a home console that can be taken on the go. This is why it has home console 3rd party games such as DOOM, Wolfenstein, Dragonball FighterZ, Mortal Kombat, Crash, etc. And of course this is complemented by the fact that it also recieves all of Nintendo's home console titles as well. Many people use it exclusively docked as well, which changes how the console functions as it is more than jist an HDMI out. As for the "Nintendo Gimmik" comment, that does nothing but scream downplay on your part. Unless you are willing to admit that remote play, VR, PS Now and the like are just Sony gimmiks (even more so than the hybrid console concept in fact), which makes the PS4 far more gimmiky than the Switch.
You claim the Switch is a toy for kids, but the main demographic buying and playing it is adults. This has been pointed out time and time again, but I guess that bothers you so you cling to a past stigma about Nintendo like a crutch and refuse to see it for what it is. What you play is up to you, but I play my Switch far more than my PS4, and all of the games I play on it are new. In the past six months I played Starlink, Wolfenstein 2, Dragonball FighterZ, Smash, Ys VIII, Valkeria Chronicles 4, and Yoshi on my Switch alone. On my PS4 I have played RDR2 (most overrated game I have ever played), DMC5, and REmake 2.
I have the same options as anyone else, but my Switch gets more attention while my PS4 collects dust at times. There are plenty of options on both sides, but you seem to ignore that and base things on your personal preferences alone. It only hurts your argument in the end however. Instead of downplaying a successful Nintendo console just to white knight for console that frankly does not need it just to discredit any logic you may or may not have had due to how ridiculous you sound, try acknowledging what both devices have to offer while discussing the pros of both. Personal preference has no place in a sales discussion, as sales are just that...sales. Maybe then your posts may eventually be taken seriously by anyone without the same bias as yourself.
Just my 2 Rupees.
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So Switch had more to play in the 2 years than PS4? Then we have to go back to a lot of threads that on aligned sales had the "but Switch didn't had a noteworthy game in the last 6-12 months".
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