40 percent of Epic Games Store users say they don't have Steam

[The_Liquid_Laser]

Chazore said:

The_Liquid_Laser said:

My conclusions are based on the data that I actually have.  That is why I am asking for more data.  If you have actual sales data, about either the PC or Steam in North America, then please share it.  Otherwise I must assume I am correct.  In fact, my view is the most reasonable one, because it is based on actual sales data.

But you cannot assume you are, and even Conina pointed out how that thought process makes no sense.

Your view isn't any more reasonable than someone who thinks of something still being stuck in the past though. PC isn't super weak in NA, and no, I don't have to go searching for Steam data to know this, because it's incredibly silly to assume that since the 90's, NA has been on console lockdown, and will be for all eternity (we can't even use the "well maybe not in 50 years, because mobile is already here and so is Streaming). 

You are accusing me of doing the thing that you yourself are actually doing.  I have past data.  Not great but better than nothing.  You have nothing. You have no sales data.  You just have a strong gut feeling.  You are saying that I cannot assume.  You are assuming and it is based on nothing.

Also, I just noticed that I missed one of Conina's replies, so I'll respond here:

Conina said:

The_Liquid_Laser said:

My claim was about North America.  No one can counter my argument about North America, because no one has solid numbers about North America.  The very fact that these numbers are a secret is evidence that my claim is correct.

So I can claim any number or share of any classified or unclear number? And my claim would be correct because it can't be disproved?

Example: I claim that in the last hour 5 billion ants with superpowers were born. You can't prove that I'm wrong, so that's evidence that my claim is correct... yeah, right! 

You misunderstand what I am saying.  Your example is a situation where these is no evidence.  But with Valve's sales data, there actually is a ton of evidence.  But all of the evidence is being kept secret by Valve.  They have all of their sales data.  Why not share it?  Other companies share their sales data all the time in press releases or financial reports.  "Skyrim has sold 30 million copies total."  Stuff like that.  

Valve is extremely secretive with their sales data.  Why?  The secrecy is evidence that the data is unflattering for them.