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eva01beserk said:
Ljink96 said:

Well yeah, people who don't look to the past are going to be ignorant. Obama, Clinton, Bush all tried to do something about boarder control. But they handled it differntly from trump which I did appreciate. Don't treat all of them like their villains.

The difference of Obama from Trump is that Trump himself is a hypocrite, while Obama..eh not so much. Constituents come in all shapes, sizes, educaiton backgrounds, mental capacities, etc. so I'm not necessarily worried about them, it's the head I'm more worried about in terms of exhibiting hypocritical tendencies on more than several occasions. 

But yeah, I think everyone should be held accountable not to incite violence on either side, but that doesn't stop it [violence] from happening. I think if anything ti just adds more fuel to the fire. It should be that we all have free speech anywhere, but things that are obscene shouldn't be allowed.

Na I get it. Orange man bad. I thought you said you where a centrist? Me as a centrist I hold everyone accountable to their actions. If trump does a bad thing, i will not excuse obama, clinton or bush cuz they did not as bad. I dont belong to any party. I will criticize ideas not the person presenting them. 

lol, that's not what I said at all... I do hold everyone accountable, I didn't excuse anyone. I don't think you read my post lol. Your rebuttal on hypocrisy did not conform to my views on hypocrisy at all. You referred to Obama's constituents and followers as hypocrites, which they probably are, but I referred to Trump himself as a hypocrite. I criticize actions as they do indeed speak louder than words. 

I handle things factually, previous presidents did handle boarder control differently from Trump, one that I personally agreed with. If you translate that and pointing out that Trump is much more of a hypocrite than Obama, and translate that to someone not being a centrist...my friend I don't think you are a centrist. Centrists are open to other interpretations, they don't label people quickly...so uh...yeah. That's pretty awkward. 

I do think boarder control is something that America should have, how it's done is a totally different story and I don't agree with how Trump is trying to handle it.