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Azzanation said:
Chazore said:

Exactly. Sweeney was cocky to assume that anything and everything is decided by devs, and not the consumers, the very lifeblood, the very people that buy said games and make said choices, that directly fuel what goes where and what.

Not sure why he's included Greenlight, considering that it's been dead for some time now. If he means early access, then he has to look no further than Epic games, who also allow for buggy unfinished games. 

That's exactly how the video game industry crashed many years ago, was due to no quality control and relying on the people. Look how that turned out.

Green light was just an example. Where ever the shitty games come from it doesn't matter.

You've literally bolded the parts coming both from Epic and Greenlight, a cocky guy at a company, poised to try forming their own monopoly, and a system that's been abandoned by the company that made it.

The first bolded part has nothing to do with the original crash either, let alone the second part, which I'd already pointed out, was long since abandoned, in favor of the obvious and used "Early access" method, which both Epic and Valve adopt fully now.

It's obvious that if Steam's going to allow unfinished early access games, and that Epic doing the same, can only mean even more unfinished early access games in the future.

Where the shitty games come from does matter, because that's where the shitty games come from in the first place. Greenlight was trash because we reached a point where devs would ltierally bribe users into giving them free game keys if they voted for their games, or groups just simply upvoting bad games, just to dick around with the system itself (funnily enough, just like the Rapdeday dev has done recently with the "no holds bar" rules).

Greenlight was actual garbage, and I'm glad Valve did away with it, but it's now become obvious that the ea program is fast becoming a "me-too" glorified gaming version of Patreon, where you might get something good in return, rather than you will. 



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