Chazore said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:
I've always felt Valve's numbers are misleading. I would like more hard stats from them. I don't think Valve is as nearly as popular as the big 3 in North America. Instead I think Steam gets a lot of users in places like Russia where consoles are not readily available.
Also, I personally don't use Steam. If I do get a PC game it has always been from gog.com. Given the rise of the Epic Games store, I might consider them as well. So you can count me as the type of person who might use the Epic Games store but not Steam. |
Wat?.
Valve's numbers are on the mark though, especially with daily active users and total users. They aren't some small company in the PC space. There are more PC gamers out there than there are console gamers.
You not using Steam kinda tells me how much you know about the storefront though. Not sure why you'd consider anti-consumer practices, less features and DRM over non DRM like GoG.
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Do you have sales numbers for last year for the top 20 Steam games in North America?
konnichiwa said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:
I don't dislike Valve. I dislike Steam. Why should I use a service that I dislike?
A couple reasons.
1) Before Steam came along we had numbers for both PC and Console sales. PC games never sold like console games did. The big money was always in console gaming. This was also in an era when PC gaming had more exclusives (and better exclusives IMO) than it does now.
2) Valve never gives us all of their data. This in itself is telling. The XB1 is not selling well and Microsoft doesn't give us data about the XB1. I suspect Valve is the same way. If the data was actually good, then the company would give it to us regularly.
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Yeah I don't get it, we had Wow that had + 10 million subscribers, we had CS go that did + 25 million and plenty more if you have 25 million active users in North America it certainly seems big.
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You missed my previous post. I was talking about North America.
