HylianSwordsman said:
o_O.Q said:
"It doesn't have to apply specifically to race."
which i didn't say...
I know, I was just telling you. Thought it was relevant here.
" so it's easy to profile them and be prejudiced against them, and people do."
if i asked you to distinguish between a christian and an atheist could you do it? could you identify 3 criteria which could be used to distinguish between the two?
Nope. At least not in an honest way. But the people that profile Muslims are doing it based on what region they look like they're from, so they are doing so mostly based on skin color, which is probably why people frequently bring up race.
"and when you're dealing with a group that's 2 billion strong, and most of them aren't extremists, it's not really fair to just treat them all like they're some kind of menace."
you didn't answer my question when i asked you if you would like to see the influence of the christian religion grow
what is your answer?
I did. I said I like Christian values, but that they're already in the Constitution and Declaration of Independence, which are secular documents, so I'd rather have separation of church and state. In other words, no.
"and while she may not have meant it to be taken that exact way, she definitely meant something toxic by it"
what toxic intent did she have?
To be mean to Muslims, as you yourself implied, though you'll probably deny it.
" No, they're not talking about mass rape of Japanese women, no one thinks that, he doesn't either, I'll bet my bottom dollar he doesn't, that would be silly."
as silly as stating that you want an army to be formed to combat birth rates? or less silly
I don't want that. That would be silly, but it looks like that's what the shooter thought.
and why would you make the assumption that its not about advocating rape of japanese women? with candace owens you are choosing to ignore her stated intent and just forming your own conclusions so why not do that here?
She didn't clearly state her intent though, it was very poorly written.
"He seems to agree with me that if the shooter saw that tweet I mentioned earlier, he could draw the conclusion that she meant genocide"
based on what? as i stated earlier the focus of her tweet was declining birth rates, for the second time can you explain how that equates to genocide?
I'm not sure what the point of this argument is. I don't think that, the shooter does. He flat out said he was inspired by her. Unless you have a more likely tweet from her that might have inspired this? Again, I'm not saying he made a rational conclusion, just that he made one.
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"Nope. At least not in an honest way."
wow you really couldn't find 3 criteria which could be used to distinguish between christians and atheists?
ok how are you able to distinguish between the two?
you are able i would assume to understand that i'm speaking of two separate groups of people... how are you doing that?
" But the people that profile Muslims are doing it based on what region they look like they're from"
this is based on what? can you show me evidence that people are identifying people as "muslim" based only on skin colour?
"what toxic intent did she have?
To be mean to Muslims, as you yourself implied, though you'll probably deny it."
what mean things has candace said about muslims?
when atheists criticise christianity as a backwards ideology do you jump to the defense of christians?
"I did. I said I like Christian values"
you think abortion should be prohibited?
"so I'd rather have separation of church and state. In other words, no."
but you don't see a problem with the influence of islam increasing?
"I don't want that. That would be silly, but it looks like that's what the shooter thought."
the shooter wanted to increase the birth rates of people in france(which is what candace was talking about), so he shot people in new zealand?
"I'm not sure what the point of this argument is. I don't think that, the shooter does. He flat out said he was inspired by her."
yes and i'm asking you to make a logical argument for how that makes sense and so far you are failing
"Unless you have a more likely tweet from her that might have inspired this?"
well that's the point
"gain, I'm not saying he made a rational conclusion"
your entire argument hinges on him drawing a logical conclusion from candace owen's tweet which to me doesn't make any sense
