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HylianSwordsman said:
o_O.Q said:

"Because she likes to dog whistle"

in what sense? you think candace owens... a black woman( i bring up race because you did later on and its generally the focus when "dog whistling" is brought up) is a white supremacist?

Well dog whistle is just slang for saying something you think isn't okay to say without actually saying it. It doesn't have to apply specifically to race.

"obvious racist shit"

islam is not a race and candace owens is black

Yeah it's not. But there's 2 billion practicing Muslims out there and they all tend to come from the same regions for the most part, so it's easy to profile them and be prejudiced against them, and people do. It kind of becomes an ethnicity or nationality thing at some point. Like when we used to be prejudiced against Italians, you know? Except this time the rationale is based in a religion, that's usually connected by region and culture, so it's not racist but it's still ethnic, and when you're dealing with a group that's 2 billion strong, and most of them aren't extremists, it's not really fair to just treat them all like they're some kind of menace.

"I'm giving you how her post could be viewed as anti-muslim"

the things people say can very often very easily be twisted to fit whatever conclusions we need to justify going after someone... what most people pushing this don't seem to get is that this can happen to you too

This is what I meant earlier about people thinking that toxicity spreads outside the internet. They're not "going after Candace Owens" they're just denouncing all the toxicity on Twitter and the effect it seems to have on the world. I mean the crazy guy flat out name-dropped her, no? So obviously even if most people aren't twisting it to fit their conclusions, he was, and while she may not have meant it to be taken that exact way, she definitely meant something toxic by it, or "mean" as you said earlier.

"but this idea that she's never said anything on Muslims or the second amendment"

which i didn't say, and i don't follow candace owens... to be honest i don't really care about her, i saw one interview with her and that's it

I wasn't totally following the whole conversation so I don't know where the 2nd amendment comes in, but you asked a couple times about her thoughts on Muslims, and there seems to be a larger conversation going on about the potential connection of that tweet and the shooters actions since I mentioned it. I think here he's actually just referring to that tweet he quoted, it isn't related to anything you said specifically.

"Again, if they said they need to combat them because otherwise they'll be majority Chinese"

i asked you a direct question which you have not addressed here so i'll repeat it again

"when people talk about combating declining birth rates in japan do you believe they are advocating for the mass rape of japanese women?"

He probably thought that was rhetorical. It sounds rhetorical. No, they're not talking about mass rape of Japanese women, no one thinks that, he doesn't either, I'll bet my bottom dollar he doesn't, that would be silly. He seems to agree with me that if the shooter saw that tweet I mentioned earlier, he could draw the conclusion that she meant genocide, and he made an imperfect analogy. It's still a pretty fair analogy though.

"It doesn't have to apply specifically to race."

which i didn't say...

 

" so it's easy to profile them and be prejudiced against them, and people do."

 if i asked you to distinguish between a christian and an atheist could you do it? could you identify 3 criteria which could be used to distinguish between the two?

 

"and when you're dealing with a group that's 2 billion strong, and most of them aren't extremists, it's not really fair to just treat them all like they're some kind of menace."

you didn't answer my question when i asked you if you would like to see the influence of the christian religion grow

what is your answer?

 

"and while she may not have meant it to be taken that exact way, she definitely meant something toxic by it"

what toxic intent did she have?

 

" No, they're not talking about mass rape of Japanese women, no one thinks that, he doesn't either, I'll bet my bottom dollar he doesn't, that would be silly."

as silly as stating that you want an army to be formed to combat birth rates? or less silly

and why would you make the assumption that its not about advocating rape of japanese women? with candace owens you are choosing to ignore her stated intent and just forming your own conclusions so why not do that here?

 

"He seems to agree with me that if the shooter saw that tweet I mentioned earlier, he could draw the conclusion that she meant genocide"

based on what? as i stated earlier the focus of her tweet was declining birth rates, for the second time can you explain how that equates to genocide?