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Alara317 on 14 March 2019
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Immersiveunreality said:
Alara317 said:

Oh, I totally see things one way. It does NOT work the same both ways. If it did, I wouldn't be shocked but just disappointed. One side clearly makes more sense, one side clearly has logic, compassion, and reason on their side, and the other really does act like a hate group or a group so stuck in the past that the idea of change (even if for the better) is a scary prospect. So yes, I admit my bias but even from the perspective of an unbiased third party the lean is so very obvious. 

So when the plenty of liberal sided commenters in this thread are being critical of believing certain media you accuse them of what,being part of the hate group,ignorant,pretending to be liberal,in denial?

I think you see things a bit darker than what they in reality are.

Not at all. I'm seeing 'liberals' in this thread pulling from a wide variety of reliable resources - almost none of them being MSNBC or CNN - whereas I don't think I've seen any evidence on the opposite side being presented from what could be a reliable source. In fact, as I watch this debate happening I'm seeing certain people (Pemalite, Spoken Truth, etc) offering graphs and history to show the scaremongering of the right to be debunked but it's not having an effect. 

"Migration is the worst it's ever been! Illegal immigrants are ruining the nation!" Spews the right. 

"Actually, statistics and history show that illegal immigration is actually on the decline and has been since the late 90's and here's research to show that illegal immigrants are actually less likely to cause a fuss because they don't want to be deported." 

On one hand you have people spewing non-facts based on hate-mongering and fear and ignorance but they're spewed with enough passion that they actually have an influence on the world. On the other hand you have the facts, the data, the patterns, and the historical trends that go against those non-facts but we live in a world where for some reason the default is to act like both sides are equally valid when they just aren't. 

Bipartisan politics is NOT devoid of disparity. There are right and wrong answers to these questions, these problems. Don't mistake the popular vote for the ethical choice; all this entire election and administration proves is that hate and fearmongering hold more weight in this world than facts and reason and truth. And as long as the smartest people in this world continue to be smart but non-aggressive, their voices will never be heard over all the racism and xenophobia and homophobia. I know I'm going off on a tangent here, but while there are 'liberal' scumbags who force diversity and are just as violent the right, but I rarely see intelligent, well-meaning, compassionate republicans. Scientists are almost all liberal because it's liberals who want to fund the space program and care about the environment and want to give healthcare to all and fund research into mental diseases and want to prove that homosexuality is natural and harmless. Liberals want progress, Conservatives want to stagnate, refuse change, and retreat to the past. 

And yes, I know that's a bold claim (which is virtually impossible to prove) but I've never once met a person with a PHD who leaned towards the political right because the political right seems to hate science, hate the environment, and hate the idea that maybe we need to change in order to survive. 

So yeah, sorry, I'm not going to pretend both sides are equal. There is a good side and a bad side of this debate; I believe I've said it before and I will say it again, modern republicans will likely be seen as villains once this stage in history is written and relegated to the past.