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Immersiveunreality said:
Alara317 said:
I'm absolutely shocked at how bad some of the logic being spewed in this thread can be.

One side - "I am giving logical, rational arguments backed by science, here are my sources, here's an explanation of the psychology that leads to this, and here's my take on the matter."

Other side - "you can't trust those sources! You're lying! You're biased! Of course that's what the [redacted] media want you to think!"

I just...this is really dumb, guys. I see some people here using real intelligence, logic, reason, and rationale speaking for them while the other half are aggressively denying it, pushing just all the logical fallacies in lieu of actual facts and statistics, then appealing to emotions and tribalistic garbage to play the victim despite being the ones oppressing others by taking away their rights.

The hypocrisy, it burns! And yes, you all know what side is completely devoid of reason.

Do you attach one political side to each side you mention or do you mean it both ways?

Oh, I totally see things one way. It does NOT work the same both ways. If it did, I wouldn't be shocked but just disappointed. One side clearly makes more sense, one side clearly has logic, compassion, and reason on their side, and the other really does act like a hate group or a group so stuck in the past that the idea of change (even if for the better) is a scary prospect. So yes, I admit my bias but even from the perspective of an unbiased third party the lean is so very obvious.