| HollyGamer said: The same with u, it's just "rumor ", why you take this seriously. |
I have provided evidence for many of my claims and counter claims though.
| HollyGamer said: Oke Vega is Fiji Successor and Polaris is hawaii successor , but Polaris has the same performance with Fiji or more. That's the point of improvement , the same thing will happen with Navi that will have performance of vega 64 or even more. |
In non-DRAM limited scenarios. (I.E. 4GB and less) Fiji beats Polaris hands down.
https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2396?vs=2300
| HollyGamer said: I never asked power consumption as benchmark, The point of the benchmark is to prove that GTX 970 and GTX 980 as high end GPU can be performed with mainstream GPU like Polaris in 2016. |
The point was about comparing Maxwell to Polaris. And the point I made is that Maxwell, despite being built at 28nm is just as efficient/more so than Polaris at 14nm.
Whether you asked for power consumption benchmarks or not is thus besides the point.
| HollyGamer said: If you agree if they can increase the shader processor why you are not agree with the rumored performance number, the new rumor that just came pointed out that if PS5 navi is using Navi 9 that has 4672 sp , which more than Radeon VII , it's possible to gain that level of performance. |
4672 SP (73 CU's) isn't happening. That is an insanely large chip for something that is a mid-range part... And that would be a die-harvested part even still, meaning it's going to be an even larger chip than the CU counts would otherwise imply.
You do understand that costs are a very real issue for mid-range parts, right? You do understand that don't you?
Vega 7 with 60 CU's was already beefy at 331mm2 at 7nm. (Granted that's a die-harvested 64 CU part.)
For mid-range you want 200-250mm2 die sizes so you can get more working chips per wafer and hit the $200-$300 price points.
| HollyGamer said: The Compubench shows that it has terrible compute unit but you need to remember Navi intended for gaming focus ( yeah vega and Polaris also intended for gaming but it not helping them by focusing more on compute power ) So if the igpu Navi shows that performance level of shading close to Vega 56, than it's a beast. Imagine a dedicated PC Navi can do (navi 10 or even 9) |
Navis focus is identical to that of Polaris. Acceptable performance per watt at an affordable price point.
Vega 56 is not a beast. Vega 56 levels of performance is mid-range, not high-end.
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