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Pemalite said:

Yeah. You can't really say that when Navi isn't even on the market yet.

Because Vega is Fiji's successor.
Polaris is Hawaii's successor.

 

If you have to ask... Then you should probably go back through the quote tree. You mentioned power consumption.


Navi will perform better than Polaris. That's a given.
Navi will perform worst than Vega. That's a given.

What is up for debate is exactly where it will fall.


Which is what myself an many others have been saying all along.


AMD is not in a good spot regarding it's GPU's. - This is coming from someone who primarily buys AMD GPU's for their compute capabilities.


Correct. Because AMD has been performing bad for years... Because they are still stuck with an old, outdated graphics architecture and Navi isn't a deviation from that.
Will Navi offer an increase in performance? Sure. Will Navi offer an increase in efficiency? Sure. But it's not going to be high-end either way, it's going to be mainstream/mid-range just like Polaris.


CompuBench tends to report CU counts incorrectly.
If you read the link, you will see that in compute it was sitting around the level of an RX 580. - Which is a terrible GPU.
So a higher-end Navi GPU will likely fall around Vega 56, tops. - It's not high-end.




The same with u, it's just "rumor ", why you take this seriously.

Oke Vega is Fiji Successor and Polaris is hawaii successor , but Polaris has the same  performance with Fiji or more. That's the point of improvement , the same thing will happen with Navi that will have performance of vega 64 or even more. 

I never asked power consumption as benchmark, The point of the benchmark is to prove that GTX 970 and GTX 980 as high end GPU can be performed with mainstream GPU like Polaris in 2016. 

If you agree if they can increase the shader processor why you are not agree with the rumored performance  number, the new rumor that just came pointed out that if PS5 navi is using Navi 9 that has 4672 sp , which more than Radeon VII , it's possible to gain that level of performance. 

The Compubench shows that it has terrible compute unit but you need to remember Navi intended for gaming focus ( yeah vega and Polaris also intended for gaming but it not helping them by focusing more on compute power ) So if the igpu Navi shows that performance level of shading close to Vega 56, than it's a beast. Imagine a dedicated PC Navi can do (navi 10 or even 9)