| HollyGamer said: A revolutionary or not it's still a big jump in improvement even if it's just because of small die size. |
Yeah. You can't really say that when Navi isn't even on the market yet.
| HollyGamer said: Also why the hell you comparing Vega with Fiji, you should compare it to Polaris instead Vega? |
Because Vega is Fiji's successor.
Polaris is Hawaii's successor.
| HollyGamer said: Pascal and Maxwel on architectural level is the same the same with all GCN across the AMD GPU after Fiji , the are improving on the driver level , you just mentioned by yourself. |
I did agree you know.
| HollyGamer said: And why the hell are u using power load consumption as benchmark? |
If you have to ask... Then you should probably go back through the quote tree. You mentioned power consumption.
| HollyGamer said: Navi will perform better or not we still don't know yet, it's only rumor, this just pure speculation based on the latest rumor and on top of that trusted source across the Internet, anyone can agree or not . |
Navi will perform better than Polaris. That's a given.
Navi will perform worst than Vega. That's a given.
What is up for debate is exactly where it will fall.
| HollyGamer said: Also We don't know if AMD can increase their ROp's or their shader processor , they probably cannot break 64 CU limit but they can increase shader processor. And yes it's rumor but a rumor or not i have a source , nobody can debunked either right or wrong, because that what we have. |
Which is what myself an many others have been saying all along.
| HollyGamer said: You just assuming AMD is already in the dead end , but we don't know yet, many expert like Adore TV out there who also expert in this and has a lot insider got a lot of info and newsleak , think it's possible. |
AMD is not in a good spot regarding it's GPU's. - This is coming from someone who primarily buys AMD GPU's for their compute capabilities.
| HollyGamer said: Your logic is "AMD is performing bad now, so in the future they will perform bad as well " that's how you think on this matter. |
Correct. Because AMD has been performing bad for years... Because they are still stuck with an old, outdated graphics architecture and Navi isn't a deviation from that.
Will Navi offer an increase in performance? Sure. Will Navi offer an increase in efficiency? Sure. But it's not going to be high-end either way, it's going to be mainstream/mid-range just like Polaris.
| HollyGamer said: So yes It's still in a realm of possibility. Also we also got a new benchmark that suspected as Navi GPU and on top of that it's an igpu or APU https://wccftech.com/amd-navi-gpu-radeon-rx-benchmarks-graphics-performance-rumors/. You need to remember it was mentioned as low end Navi GPU (navi 12 or 15 probably) , and PS5 are rumored to be using Navi 9 ( a cut down version) . |
CompuBench tends to report CU counts incorrectly.
If you read the link, you will see that in compute it was sitting around the level of an RX 580. - Which is a terrible GPU.
So a higher-end Navi GPU will likely fall around Vega 56, tops. - It's not high-end.
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