IGN takes issue with white male lead in Days Gone.

[pokoko]

SpokenTruth said:

pokoko said:

Uh ... you do realize that those examples were me mocking the need to call everything a trope, right?  I mean, "fish that swim" didn't tip you off?  For real?  Or are you just pretending you didn't know?

And what you simply seem unable to understand is that saying, "not another cliched character," WHEN HE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THAT CHARACTER BEYOND HIS APPEARANCE, is ignorance.  It's an assumption, pure and simple, and one that he was WRONG about.  That very fact proves that it was unfounded.  

I detest your way of thinking, and that of the writer, that need to label and prejudge.  That book I referenced, I had absolutely no need to say, "blonde princess, what a boring trope."  I would much rather let the character develop, or not, and then decide how I feel about them.

Anyway, if you're tired of "serious white men" then, jesus christ, I don't know what to say.  Stay away from serious movies, books, and games, because that's just realism.  That's far, far, far more basic and unspecific than "bald space marine," to the point that the comparison just seems silly and forced.

But that's part of what a trope is. It can be an appearance, it can be a style, it can be a persona, it can anything that is cliched and overused.  Why are you not understanding that?

And where did I say anything about "serious white men"?  Or me being tired of "serious white men"?  I was under the impression the problem was "gruff white men".  Not only is there a difference between gruff and serious but there are wholly separate character traits. One deals with voice and the other demeanor.

Wait, what?  You do know the definition of "gruff," don't you?  It certainly doesn't just deal with voice.  

English Language Learners Definition of gruff

: rough or very serious in manner or speech