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Snoopy on 03 March 2019
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Replicant said:
darkenergy said:

Unfortunately no matter what you say to these people they are brainwashed from the news media who spew propaganda bullshit for the oligarchs who really run the USA.

Yeah, that seems to be the case sometimes unfortunately. Naturally, the American people should be the ones shaping their own future without any interference from any other country, and I won't pretend that I know what's best for the US. The Scandinavian model may not be suitable (at least not without adjustments) but as a Dane I always struggle to see why some people hate the idea of creating better conditions for their fellow countrymen.

Snoopy said:

1. Don't worry it isn't sustainable for long. What you have going is only working in the short run. Which is why again a lot of the Nordic countries are leaning more right regarding politics lately. Also, if you are homeless it is usually due to mental issues rather than finance issues. America is one of the few countries where you don't have to work and still have a roof over your head, food, a tv, etc.

2.  Not all debt is bad as long as it makes you money and you can pay the interest. Which we can very easily. I have to find the article, but the profits from a few big tech companies alone can pay the interest on the debt. Another example is Donald Trump has a lot of debt in real estate but makes millions from it every year. Anyhow you better hope that America doesn't collapse because if it does you will be speaking Russian in no time. Also, I don't really listen to mainstream media, but independent media like Daily Wire for conservative views and TYT for liberal views. Then, I make my judgment.

3. I don't buy the 83% can't afford college argument. Anyone can get a loan to go to college and if they get a degree that is worth anything they should be able to pay it off in a few years. Also, there is more to education than just college. I had a friend recently who is making 75k a year after graduating from a coding boot camp and worked a year as a freelancer. There is also a lot of trades out there from construction, real estate, technology, etc. College is definitely not the end all be all.

1. People like you have been saying that since its inception 100 years ago. Our public AND private sectors are as strong as ever.

2. The US national debt is increasing $1 trillion a year since 2007. Interest is increasing rapidly and is likely to surpass military spending in 2023. At some point, the US has to address its debt. Being able to pay a rising interest won't be sustainable forever.
Regarding bold, I'm certainly not hoping for the US to collapse. Please don't confuse this as some kind of aversion to the US. Initially, I was just commenting on your "Danes don't like paying high taxes," remember? I've enjoyed my travels in the US, and the Americans I've met when traveling in Australia and Asia have been the best.

3. Many Americans do indeed get student loans but even though 85% work paid jobs while enrolled, many struggle to ever being able to repay.

1. Pretty sure most people don't even know where Denmark is so I think you're lying. Hell, the State I grew up in has a bigger population than Denmark four times over. How can your public sector and private sector be so strong, when we have to defend you all the time? Not to mention your GDP hasn't even hit HALF a trillion yet. One bad disaster and your country is ruined and you know it.

 

2. So? We can pay the interest of the debt without breaking a sweat. Also, people don't know that most of our debt is money we owe ourselves lol. Not to mention you neglect something called inflation.

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3. Yes, they struggle because of 1. the federal government allows anyone to take loans out for any degree. So if a kid is willing to put himself thousands of dollars in debt for a liberal arts degree, why would a university lower the price? 2. Americans suck at saving money and investing. I know plenty of people who blew all their money, then when they were laid off/fired they went bankrupt and blamed America. However, speaking of college you can get degrees pretty cheap (~30k) actually if you know where to shop and look. For example, you can get rid of almost all your basic classes by going to straighterline.com for around ~2k.

Last edited by Snoopy - on 03 March 2019