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thismeintiel on 23 February 2019
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LudicrousSpeed said:
thismeintiel said:
This why I laugh when I read comments about MS getting ready for a future with no HW and Sony may get left in the dust if the console market changes because they only rely on the traditional console market. First of all, that isn't happening for a few more decades. Traditional HW is here to stay for at least another gen or two after the next one. And second, like you point out, Sony has really been the first to jump on the future. While MS was trying to push hardwired cable as a big selling point for the XBO, Sony was coming out with PS Vue. While MS was playing catch up on what Gold subscriptions gave, Sony already had Cloud saves. And before this gen even started, they were laying the groundwork for PS Now.

Sony has always been looking toward the future, whether it be true analog sticks, motion controls, or VR. A world without consoles is no different. However, they don't try to force it on those who are not ready for it just because they can't sell HW. Right now, these are just options, but if a console-less world becomes a reality, Sony is ready for it.

What a bizarre thing to gloat about, Sony locking cloud saves behind a paywall. That would be like someone pointing out XBL Gold was required for online play long before PS+ was required. 

Plus, you don’t need Gold to use the cloud saves on Xbone. You play a game on one console, log in on another and it automatically syncs whether you have Gold or not. On PS4 you not only need PS+ but you have to manually transfer saves to the cloud and manually retrieve them, unless they’ve changed how it works recently? That’s how it was last year when I transferred my Horizon save from my PS4 to my Pro.

Your wording implies Microsoft is forcing GamePass on gamers. How so? It’s just an optional service like PS Now. Microsoft also allows EA Access, which Sony does not. Microsoft isn’t afraid of competing services on their platform, if either company is “forcing” you to do anything it would be Sony, denying gamers any option outside of PS Now.

At least PS+ actually gave you many more features than just simply being able to play online.  I guess its a good thing Sony forced MS's hand on that one. Though, the point was that Sony was looking at this feature first, MS followed.  Sure, it is nice that they don't require Gold for a smaller amount of Cloud saves.

I don't know if they changed retrieving Cloud saves, as it's been awhile since I have needed to retrieve one.  However, I do know that they do automatically save to the Cloud.  When beginning a new game, it asks you if you wish to have them save automatically or not.

MS wanted to move to all digital much faster than the market wanted to or was ready to, hence the DRM BS from the beginning of the gen.  And Sony didn't want a competing service because it leads to what is happening in the tv/movie streaming market.  Instead of having a couple of streaming sites/apps, now we have every freaking premium channel and movie studio taking away their content and trying to come out with their own streaming sites/apps, all priced at $10-$15 a month. 

If Sony allowed it, it wouldn't have stopped at EA Access.  We'd have Ubisoft Access.  Activision Access.  Bethesda Access.  Rockstar Access.  THQNordic Access.  And so on and so on.  And I'm sure your answer will be let the market decide.  Well, they already did.  They chose Sony and the PS4.  Obviously, having the online market so divided and be so expensive was not appealing to them, or they would have jumped on the Xbox train.