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Pemalite said:
zorg1000 said:

You know it makes sense but you also dont see the point?

The point is that people who choose Lockhart over Anaconda are likely going to be people who value price over visuals.

Correct. Maybe it's because I am financially better off than some people and don't really give a crap about $100-$200 extra? I dunno.


thismeintiel said:

Neither do I.  We're going to have over 1/3 of households with 4K TVs sometime this year in the US, if it hasn't happened already.  In one more year, with all of the great deals, it will probably be approaching 1/2.  I just don't see the point in advertising 1080p on the box in a world where everything is going to be pushing 4K.  Not to mention that those games are going to be more gimped than just by having a lower resolution.  Seems pointless when you can probably spend another $100 and get a premium console.

I think MS's mistake is thinking that the PS4 won greatly because of the launch price difference.  So, if they can get a $100 cheaper box out there at launch, even though it's underpowered, it will greatly increase their chances.  Of course, the price difference means nothing when compared to the perceived value of the product.  Even if the XBO launched at $399, it wouldn't have changed much.  They still had the DRM fiasco.  And the PS4 was just blatantly more powerful than the XBO, and had the PS name and history, so it had a better perceived value. 

Resolution Gate and price were the biggest factors.
At the end of the day... The Xbox One was not only more expensive, it offered inferior visuals compared to the Playstation 4... Consumers took note and voted with their wallets and good on them.

I think next time around Microsoft is going to try and appeal to both segments with multiple SKU's... It makes sense, but could also confuse consumers who have absolutely no idea what a Flop is... Or that a Ram is some kind of animal that they can eat.

Personally I would just prefer something with the absolute best bang-for-buck possible... I am going to buy it either way... And the Premium device that comes out a few years later as well.

I'd say the after effects of the DRM fiasco are more responsible for its outcome than the price.  MS lost the confidence and trust of many gamers after that was revealed.  Even though they reversed it once they saw the poor preorders, some gamers just weren't coming back.  Even with the large price difference, that still wasn't as bad as the $200 difference PS3 had to deal with, it still sold really well for the first couple of months on the market, almost as well as the PS4.  And it was 6 months after those launch months that they dropped the price.  But, even at the same price, and A LOT of times on sale for $50+ cheaper (sometimes w/game), it still didn't have the same perceived value as the PS4.  Even this past Jan, the PS4 came close to outselling the XBO by 2:1 in the US, even though the XBO was effectively selling for $199 ($220 w/ game vs $299 with no game.)

In the end, I don't see a 1080p box being very appealing if for $100 more people can get a premium console that is ~3x the power.  If it were $200 less than the Anaconda/PS5, launching at $199, you may have something.