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Biggerboat1 on 23 February 2019
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thismeintiel said:
BraLoD said:

They will not.

I for the one don't care for the PS4 Pro, and sticked to the Slim, but I would never buy that Lockhart thing, never.

4k and its benefits is this next gen reality, it's where development is focused, why would anyone ever buy it makes no sense to me, Anaconda will be the base, not the other way around, people would be buying junk instead of a next gen system.

By the way, PS5 will be the stronger system like PS4 was if those are the actual specs, so even Anaconda will be in an awkward position, sitting between junk while posing to be premium and the actual premium system that will be with the competition.

If this is really their plan, Sony will have another really smooth gen ahead of them.

This.  There is a HUGE difference between a mid-gen upgrade and a launch console.  Most don't feel the upgrades were worth the price when they could just wait it out and buy an incredibly more powerful system next gen for around the same price.  The OG PS4 and XBOs still play all the same games as the upgrades.  Now, when we get to a new gen, people are going to be looking for an actual upgrade.  And advertising 1080p on a box in 2020 just isn't going to appeal to many. 

The 4 Tflops is also going to turn people off.  Sure, we've heard it a million times that Tflops aren't everything, which is true, but like it or not, that's just the number that is given.  Yes, a 4 Tflops Navi will be better than a 4.2 Tflops Polaris that's in the Pro, especially with the new CPU, but people won't be looking at it like that.  And it gets worse when its compared to the 6 Tflops X.  It just makes that console look pointless and weak.

As for the last line, definitely agree.  If Sony has the most powerful console, again, coupled with B/C with the PS4 (hopefully more) out of the gate, and it's for the same price as the Anaconda, I imagine next gen to be pretty easy for them.

Pemalite said:

I personally don't see the point of a 1080P SKU. Just super sample the lot.

Neither do I.  We're going to have over 1/3 of households with 4K TVs sometime this year in the US, if it hasn't happened already.  In one more year, with all of the great deals, it will probably be approaching 1/2.  I just don't see the point in advertising 1080p on the box in a world where everything is going to be pushing 4K.  Not to mention that those games are going to be more gimped than just by having a lower resolution.  Seems pointless when you can probably spend another $100 and get a premium console.

I think MS's mistake is thinking that the PS4 won greatly because of the launch price difference.  So, if they can get a $100 cheaper box out there at launch, even though it's underpowered, it will greatly increase their chances.  Of course, the price difference means nothing when compared to the perceived value of the product.  Even if the XBO launched at $399, it wouldn't have changed much.  They still had the DRM fiasco.  And the PS4 was just blatantly more powerful than the XBO, and had the PS name and history, so it had a better perceived value. 

I think you're making the mistake of assuming the average gamer is as clued up about tech specs as the average member of this forum.

Even on this forum I'd say there is a general feeling that the 1080 to 4K jump is diminishing returns. If the same game is running side by side on those rumoured Xbox skus on anything less than a 65" TV I don't think the average gamer is going to notice much of a difference & the lower sku may in fact be the console that makes most sense to many gamers.

Don't get me wrong, I'd personally plump for the superior sku but that's because I have a bad case of tech fomo - can't help myself. Though I do intend on upgrading from my 55" oled to 77-85" in the next year or 2 - at which point that extra grunt will really show in a meaningful way. But most gamers won't have a 77-85" tv any time soon!