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thismeintiel on 23 February 2019
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BraLoD said:
Intrinsic said:

It actually makes a lot of sense. I mean we have $2000 gaming laptops that ship with 1080p screens. We also have the cheaper 1080p consoles outselling the 4k versions by like 4:1. The simple truth is that even though 4K is increasingly popular a majority of the console user base simply wouldn't care. They would buy the 1080p version over the 4k one. 

They will not.

I for the one don't care for the PS4 Pro, and sticked to the Slim, but I would never buy that Lockhart thing, never.

4k and its benefits is this next gen reality, it's where development is focused, why would anyone ever buy it makes no sense to me, Anaconda will be the base, not the other way around, people would be buying junk instead of a next gen system.

By the way, PS5 will be the stronger system like PS4 was if those are the actual specs, so even Anaconda will be in an awkward position, sitting between junk while posing to be premium and the actual premium system that will be with the competition.

If this is really their plan, Sony will have another really smooth gen ahead of them.

This.  There is a HUGE difference between a mid-gen upgrade and a launch console.  Most don't feel the upgrades were worth the price when they could just wait it out and buy an incredibly more powerful system next gen for around the same price.  The OG PS4 and XBOs still play all the same games as the upgrades.  Now, when we get to a new gen, people are going to be looking for an actual upgrade.  And advertising 1080p on a box in 2020 just isn't going to appeal to many. 

The 4 Tflops is also going to turn people off.  Sure, we've heard it a million times that Tflops aren't everything, which is true, but like it or not, that's just the number that is given.  Yes, a 4 Tflops Navi will be better than a 4.2 Tflops Polaris that's in the Pro, especially with the new CPU, but people won't be looking at it like that.  And it gets worse when its compared to the 6 Tflops X.  It just makes that console look pointless and weak.

As for the last line, definitely agree.  If Sony has the most powerful console, again, coupled with B/C with the PS4 (hopefully more) out of the gate, and it's for the same price as the Anaconda, I imagine next gen to be pretty easy for them.

Pemalite said:
Intrinsic said:

I have said this too..... its f my opinion that people are mixing up this whole two skus thing from MS. They are lookin at it as one being more powerful and the the other being less powerful than the PS5.

I however believe its more like a 4k sku ad a 1080p sku. And both of them will have a 4k sku that is pretty much identical with regards to power and price. Only difference is that MS will also have a cheaper 1080p console that sony may not release.

I personally don't see the point of a 1080P SKU. Just super sample the lot.

Neither do I.  We're going to have over 1/3 of households with 4K TVs sometime this year in the US, if it hasn't happened already.  In one more year, with all of the great deals, it will probably be approaching 1/2.  I just don't see the point in advertising 1080p on the box in a world where everything is going to be pushing 4K.  Not to mention that those games are going to be more gimped than just by having a lower resolution.  Seems pointless when you can probably spend another $100 and get a premium console.

I think MS's mistake is thinking that the PS4 won greatly because of the launch price difference.  So, if they can get a $100 cheaper box out there at launch, even though it's underpowered, it will greatly increase their chances.  Of course, the price difference means nothing when compared to the perceived value of the product.  Even if the XBO launched at $399, it wouldn't have changed much.  They still had the DRM fiasco.  And the PS4 was just blatantly more powerful than the XBO, and had the PS name and history, so it had a better perceived value.