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Intrinsic on 22 February 2019
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thismeintiel said:
Intrinsic said:

I have said this too..... its f my opinion that people are mixing up this whole two skus thing from MS. They are lookin at it as one being more powerful and the the other being less powerful than the PS5.

I however believe its more like a 4k sku ad a 1080p sku. And both of them will have a 4k sku that is pretty much identical with regards to power and price. Only difference is that MS will also have a cheaper 1080p console that sony may not release.

If that turns out to be the case, I don't see the XB2 doing very well, especially if the PS5 actually turns out to be more powerful at the same $399.  Even if the "1080p" box is $100 cheaper, there's going to a larger difference between the games than just resolution.  People are going to want that real jump in their next gen HW, not a console that would be basically a XBO X with a better CPU.  I also doubt that many devs are going to be happy about having to develop for an underpowered console, when they are going to want to move on from last gen.

Then, again, maybe MS is preparing for that to be a possible outcome.  Hence the 3rd party publishing on Nintendo that has been rumored.

Not really. As lng as the CPU is the same, it has a decent amunt of RAM (12GB is decent) and the gal is to run the ames at 1080p.... a 4TF GPU is more than enugh for that. And for the peple that dont mind playin their games at 1080p they will be just fine with it. 

And I have said this here befre, ppl haven' even seen what a PS4pr or XB1X can really do if paired with a better CPU r if games were made frm the round up for them. Lckhart bein a 1080p bx makes perfect sense and is prbably the smartest thin MS can do. It allows them cme in at a lower base price while bein able to play the same next gen ames but just at lower reslutins and a slew of toned down assets. Will still like a generation better than what we have today though. 

I even believe sony shuld adopt the same strategy. Let those that want next gen at 1080p pony up $399 and those that want 4k pay $499. In about two years after all the early adopters (aka people least influenced by price) have jumped n they can drop prices by $100 cross the skus. 

nce the only difference between skus was HDD size, then it became basic and premium. Now it wuld be 4k and 1080p.

zorg1000 said:
Intrinsic said:

But no chance they are putting 1TB NVMe drives in there... SSDs yes, Mo2 based sata SSDs yes...... but not NVMe.

What exactly does this mean?

All listed prices are estimted in 2020 OEM pricing.

  • 2.5" SATA 3 HDD = ~150MB/s @ $25/1TB
  • 2.5" SATA 3 SSD = ~500MB/s @ $50/1TB
  • M.2 SATA 3 SSD = ~500MB/s @ $50/1TB
  • M.2 NVMe SSD = ~2000MB/s @ $90/1TB
Next gen consles could have any f the top 3 optins above. Or even some srt of embbedded nand flash + HDD slution which will still come in under $40. But to assume they will be spending around $90 just for storage and only 1TB of it when they could accmplish the same thin from spending considerably less is pretty much ridiculous. Unless somethin really changes with regards to NVMe prices.