How Epic Store Exclusives are bringing console wars to PC

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CladInShadows said:
I'm done caring about this issue. Initially, I was a little annoyed that I'd possibly have to install yet another launcher, but really, it's not a big deal. I'll continue to buy games where I can get the best price like I do today with steam and GOG.

Console wars, this is not.

To you perhaps, but to a lot of others and the way it's being analysed, it is. 

 

KrspaceT said:
Console wars are good. Competition can only lead to good things, and I welcome the P.C Market a chance to improve itself.

Console wars are good for consoles that sell ahrsware, but on PC, it really isn't and it becomes anti-consumer. PC gamers don't want this. The PC market has been improving itself for years btw. 

John2290 said:
Steam has left the quality seal unbroken for some time now, whether it's console wars or not and even if the ES is shit, steam really do need the kick in the hole, perhaps even enough to get them making games again for exclusive content.
It's not even the same thing as both stores are free to download, you don't have to invest in extra hardware so it's a mute point. Regardless, exclusives and the quality they bring are the best part of consoles, they are not a bad thing, the competition is an avenue for the best quality games to be made which these days are often among the few truly finished, polished and top tier games worth full price. Exclusives are the only reason, I and many others are still playing games cause triple A doesn't mean shit anymore.

Going to be honest, even when I played HL and L4D back then, they didn't exactly feel top notch, even playing them now they feel dated.

I'm not sure how something is allowed to be shit, but something else needs a kicking far worse than the new kid on the block, who's clearly trying to act like the new school bully. Steam has been improving itself over the years via a multitude of tools and a store revamp from a year and a half ago (Their major one is still in the works, just like games are when being developed for 8+ years like RDR2).

Valve are still making games though. They've made and released their own card game, while also working on 3 VR games. People who complain "they don't make games" are basically just like me when I complain that Ubisoft doesn't make games I want/like. They also have Campo working on their current game, as well as them likely working on their next game after that (like how MS and Sony will have devs working at this moment in time for next gen games, the same applies to Valve and everyone else).

See, Valve are private, they don't have shareholders to answer to, and they don't feel the ened to constantly pump out sequel after sequel after sequel. They want to make games they want to make and when they want to make them, and hardly anyone on this site seems to notice this, nor pay attention to any videos where Gabe talks about designing and making games at Valve itself (I implore anyone to watch those videos and watch them all the way to the end and learn from them).

When we talk about console wars, we aren't talking about buying the system itself, we're talking about the deals done to force you to use their client , while not giving options to buy those third party games anywhere else, let alone keys from any other storefront at a cheaper price (And Valve allows for this for their own storefront, while Epic does not, not even origin).

Console exclusives of their own design aren't bad for themselves, but holding third party exclusives isn't good for the consumer, especially on PC to just one store. It's been proven so far that Epic holding these games to their storefront has not lowered prices significantly. The lowest they have gone with just Metro is $4, when on Steam, even before day 1 purchases, you could get up to £10 and sometimes £15 off brand new game codes from key sites like GMG, which Steam allows tell sell from. Epic unfortunately does not do this and doesn't want consumers to buy games at cheaper prices, let alone anywhere else. 

"best quality" games is more or less a moot point since what you think is best could be trash to someone else. People could still find TF2 entertaining and nice to look at years later, and I could easily bet that Fornite kids would think Tf2 is gutter trash. 

If AAA doesn't mean shit, then honestly, neither would anything lower than AAA. You just have to make games people like playing. EPic had people that liked UT and their Moba game, yt they've dropped both of them. Meanwhile Valve are still holding onto their card game, Dota 21 and all their other games. Like Ubisoft, they haven't dropped their titles like Epic has done with two already, with nothing more in terms of unique game development in the works.