CrazyGPU said:
I agree with this, but I would expect a 450 U$S price tag. Maybe Sony also save money with Zen instead of Zen 2, but it would be stupid as Zen 2 is more power efficient. Why do you think XBOX wil be faster? do you think It will lauch later with a better process?. Are this numbers calculated with a 330 mm2 APU in mind? |
Those $400 MSRP consoles could cost anywhere between $400-$480 to make, meaning sony and MS will be taking a slight loss on each unit sold.
And yes it would be stupid fr any of them to use zen as opposed to zen 2.
I think XB will be faster because that sort of thin is more important t and for MS. They can't compete with playstation being at the same price and power. They will lose that fight every single time. They can't be more expensive either. Being more expensive has never translated to better sales over playstation for them. Best they can d is match the price of the PS5 (which means they will be using pretty much identical hardware with sony) but send more n thins like better cooling which sony probably wouldnt do. Thats how they end up with that clock boost. And this way MS gets to scream most powerful console from day one. And then they have to come in cheaper too, hence the XB lite.
The sweetspot for MS isn't to say we have a $300 and $500 box But rather t say we have a $300 and $400 box.
OG PS4 die size was ~350mm2@28nm. PS4pro was ~320mm2@16nm. XB1X is ~360mm2@16nm. I think its safe to assume they can fall anywhere within 320mm2 to 360mm2.
To put this into context, AMDs Vega Raedon 7 (7nm GPU) has a die size of 331mm2.
