Crackdown 3 Review Thread - MC: 60 OC: 62

[DonFerrari]

LudicrousSpeed said:

DonFerrari said:

I don't think we will be free of Don having influenced the design of the nextbox because they start developing a new system as soon as the current one launches.

On People saying Phill haven't promissed in the past https://www.polygon.com/2015/4/20/8456445/phil-spencer-e3-2015-first-party-exclusive-games and also don't remember there being that many 1st party on their E3 on that year.

https://www.destructoid.com/-paying-for-third-party-exclusives-isn-t-our-long-term-strategy-says-xbox-s-phil-spencer-297090.phtml

http://hardwareblitz.com/microsoft-invested-expanding-first-party-studios-says-phil-spencer/

http://fortune.com/2014/04/25/new-xbox-head-phil-spencer-discusses-evolving-games-industry/ and this one is funny when talking about the mistakes of the reveal he doesn't criticize the ideas they had on what Xbox should be nor the mandate Kinect, he said they could have made their vision more clear. So here also goes that defense of Spencer having fought back and nothing Don Mattrick done being also on his responsability.

They showed a lot of first party stuff at E3 2015. Gears 4, Halo 5, Forza, Fable, ReCore, Gears Ultimate, Cuphead, Rare Replay, and Sea of Thieves. That's nine games. Also remember that Papa Phil considers anything with a partnership to be first party, so thats why he'd consider Cuphead first party. That's a ton of content.

The rest of your links don't provide an ounce of credibility to your argument. Did you even read them? The only relevant one is the first one where he says that they will increase their commitment to first party studios... and it's from 2018, aka last year, the year they bought like 6 studios. The second one discusses no more buying third party exclusives and that seems to be the case? Maybe I'm mistaken but I can't think of any after Tomb Raider. The last one is mostly generic PR stuff throwing out names of exclusive launch window games and other exclusives not released yet.

So in those links, in one he said they were going to commit harder to their studios and they went out and bought a bunch of them. What a liar. /s

Please elucidate to me how "partnering" is 1st party and isn't buying third party content (or did you want to say timed exclusive?).

And then they had a lot of games to announce but few to release on that and coming years?

Machiavellian said:

DonFerrari said:

Well my memory got me then, because I do remember a claim of they having 5B of investment at the start of the gen. But if I was wrong sorry.

And yes googling it I had just this https://www.polygon.com/2013/5/29/4375392/microsoft-has-1-billion-to-invest-in-exclusive-xbox-one-titles on the 1B you mentioned. Although I don't remember they having 8 new IPs and 15 exclusives on launch, but maybe some were smaller games that we just don't remember.

I don't think we will be free of Don having influenced the design of the nextbox because they start developing a new system as soon as the current one launches.

On People saying Phill haven't promissed in the past https://www.polygon.com/2015/4/20/8456445/phil-spencer-e3-2015-first-party-exclusive-games and also don't remember there being that many 1st party on their E3 on that year.

https://www.destructoid.com/-paying-for-third-party-exclusives-isn-t-our-long-term-strategy-says-xbox-s-phil-spencer-297090.phtml

http://hardwareblitz.com/microsoft-invested-expanding-first-party-studios-says-phil-spencer/

http://fortune.com/2014/04/25/new-xbox-head-phil-spencer-discusses-evolving-games-industry/ and this one is funny when talking about the mistakes of the reveal he doesn't criticize the ideas they had on what Xbox should be nor the mandate Kinect, he said they could have made their vision more clear. So here also goes that defense of Spencer having fought back and nothing Don Mattrick done being also on his responsability.

You can consider all you want. But when all deals get closed/announced pig backed it is quite hard to believe they all started around the same time and finished together. Even more when we hear cases of one of the studios selling because they had a hard time on cash even with success of Senua, which is a recent game. Or devs that were from other company, got independent and them bought on a short time.

Also it really wouldn't take 3 years to increase or open additional teams.

You can believe all you want but without actually knowing you are just making an assumption on what you think happen not actually knowing anything.  So until you actually know, why don't you table that opinion until you can find proof. I will be the first to say I have no clue and I will not form an opinion until I actually have more information then a gut check.  

How do you know how long it takes to increase a team with talent then just filling it with a head count.  Also how do you know how long it would take to get a quality team instead of just filling a position.  Just wondering where you are getting your metric from because I know from my development house we have gone through many people over the years in interviews and only hired 2 people in 3 years.

Yes sure, makes a lot of sense.... "we passed 3 years interviewing and selecting, but no good candidates on the past 30 months, now in these last 6 months they all appeared" or would you prefer "we have interviewed all this people along 3 years and decided to hire they all at the same time"? Same for the companies they bought. I'm pretty sure it takes time to make the evaluation, contract and all, but finishing all at the same time doesn't seem like all started several years ago.

Anyway, will you deny that he talking it isn't of showing anything for several years have more to do with PR to keep the company image and sales than anything else?