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chakkra said:
zorg1000 said:

The Nintendo brand has remained strong thanks to their popular IP and handheld performance. Outside of Wii their home console market had been poor in the 21st century so doing better than GC & Wii U doesn't mean much.

Errr...  but we are not talking just about GC and Wii U here..

At the end of gen8 things will be like this:

1)Switch

2)Wii

3)SNES

XONE

4)NES

5)N64

6)GC

7)Wii U

8)VB (Yes, I'm counting it bcuz people like to pretend that it never existed, just like some people are starting to do with the WiiU)

So, in all of Nintendo's history, only three out of eight home consoles will have sold more than the Xone at the end of gen8.

That it had mediocre sales compared to PS4? Sure

That it had mediocre sales compared to 360? Sure

But I think that acting like it has been the biggest failure in gaming history is actually pushing it.  Because it is not even close.

How can the SNES be above the NES?

Also the difference between Xbox and Nintendo platforms is that Nintendo had a near monopoly on one half of the gaming industry, when you add their portables which were also active during the times they had lower success with their home platforms it gives more context to how they were able to come back. If you want a more accurate representation of where the Xbox brand is as context goes look at Sega who had no such monopoly on one half of the market once the slide began after they had a misstep they had fight the PS brand head on and even delivered a good platform but PS2 was too much things like this snow ball into the next generation unless you pull a Wii or have one half of the gaming market on lock down for your next platform. X1 will have decent numbers compared to older eras but as pointed out the market is different compared to those days which came after a crash nearly killed the industry.