PS4 Super Slim and PS4 Pro Slim?

[DonFerrari]

potato_hamster said:

DonFerrari said:

Sony have released sales of PSVR some times already and also the rate of PS4Pro sales, both seems healthy.

But yes you are right, an exec saying they are pleased with something doesn't mean it is true.

And yes, we have a dichotomy on the premium. If it is easy to take advantage from the power difference between base, pro and premium then that difference will be small and pointless, if it's meaningfull it will be few who take it. So in the end yes Sony could make Premium console and make some profit and assure all people with disposable income buy it even knowing it won't have much benefit (well devkit may make it offer some whistles and bells on a good balance on effort/result), but that will only work if they accept like 1M or less of sales of this premium edition.

Sony only releases PSVR sales when they reach milestones (1 million, 2 million, 3 million) but they obfuscate them in quarterly reports and other places. They never bothered to announce the total sales for PSVR when they announced PS4's end of year sold even though large swaths of PSVR communities were convinced it had already surpassed 4 million in sales over the fall. As far as we know PSVR sold between 1.3 in 2018 despite being sold at $200 during the peak sales period of the year. In 2017 it also sold around 1.3 million, and that was again boosted by slashing over $100 off the price a little over a year after release. That means the device's sales have already leveled off. If that's "healthy" to you for the worlds most popular VR headset by a large margin to be on the verge of declining sales a little more than 2 years after release, then you have a very different definition of "healthy" than I do.

As for PS4 pro, they said they were pleased in the months after release... and have said practically nothing since. We have no idea how many PS4 Pros have been sold. We have no idea if they're still selling at the same 1 for every 5 PS4s sold that they initially released at, and I think that the facts that we don't know is indicative that it's not something they feel is worth bragging about. Let's also keep in mind that Sony has released limited edition, highly collectable PS4 pro consoles over the past year (God of War, 500 million, Spider-man editions) and none of that has apparently led to a PS4 Pro sales number worth nothing despite God or War and Spider-man selling at a rate higher than almost any PS4 game ever has.

Except that on numerous Media Create, NPD, UK and other places from time to time we do receive what was Pro and what was vanilla and 20% seems less than what it is doing.

If you are selling more than all competitors together then you can't say it's bad.