Nate4Drake said:
Yep. Cerny already made a step forward with PS4 PRO, so it sounds natural they will continue with that on PS5. From the "leak" : Memory: 24GB - 20GB GDDR6 at 880Gb/s - 4GB DDR4 reserved for OS; is this kind of solution too costy ? If you ask me, 20GB GDDR6 at 880Gb/s would be fantastic for gaming, and considering the life cycle has been lengthened lately. Could be feasible ? |
20GB GDDR6 at 880GB/s isn't feasible to me. That would mean they are pushing the individual chips to 20Gbs. Which doesn't just sound complicated but as doesn't sound stable. Highest I see them going is with 16Gbs chips. Another thing is the cost of making a PCB with a 320bit bus.
I mean they could do 20GB on a 320bit bus with 16Gbs chips and get 640GB/s and honestly I see that as the highest they would go. As for the OS Ram... anyway we spin it x amount DDR3/DDR4 will always cost less than the same x amount of GDDR6 RAM. So adding 4GB of DDR3/DDR4 will cost less than having 4GB more of GDDR6. And LPDDR4 is even cheaper, its bandwidth peaks at around 32GB/s which is mre than enough to run a OS and OS based apps like netflix, youtube, browsers.....etc.
| Trumpstyle said: Dude this is what pretty much everyone is predicting :) but I think is just to optimistic if Microsoft and Sony goes for this kind of setup. I would slightly lower the clock speed for the Cpus, remove the LPDDR ram and lower the TF numbers. I think this would be more reasonable. And if Sony and Microsoft goes for a hybrid storage solution I expect it to be 1TB mechanical drive + 64-124 GB of flash storage. I just don't see any reason to go for 240 GB flash storage unless for high speed. Also I don't think we can expect Sony or Microsoft to take heavy losses on the next-gen consoles, moores law is simply dead, hardware components just don't fall in price as it used to. It's just to risky to take big losses out of the gate as they risk enduring those losses for a very long time. |
124GB flash storage may not be enough especially when considering games are going t be touching 80GB - 100GB+ in size next gen. And in truth 240GB flash will cost them less than $10. While a 2TB HDD will cost them around $25. So total storage budget will be around $35. Which is about $10 -$12 more than it was back in 2013 for a 500GB HDD for them.
Also at least 240GB flash is necessary if you really want to have a smooth and snappy operating console (which is the whole pint of putting one in to begin with). The OS will be permanently in the SSD, as would as will integral large portions of the last 2 - 3 games you played. Spending $35 for a solution like this is better than spending $40-$50 on a 1TB SSD.
As fr the LPDDR4, sony is already doing this with the PS4pro. The PS4pro has separate 1GB DDR3 Ram exclusive for the OS. And that what in 2016. Thats a clear indication that its something sony could go with. Especially if using that solution frees up the more expensive and faster RAM for whats really important. Its also a solutin I expect MS to adopt too.
Oh I expect they will take losses. Of at least $40 to $100 on each console sold. And I wont call that "heavy losses" But you are right about the hardware prices not dropping as much as they used to. The only real way to save costs on hardware is whenever there is a node shrink and that has far reaching benefits on the entire cost of the system. S its very possible that whatever loss they are taking on hardware they will be taking it for around 2yrs+. A $40 loss per console wouldn't kill them though
