PS5 Coming at the End of 2020 According to Analyst: High-Spec Hardware for Under $500

[Trumpstyle]

Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

Trumpstyle said:

Here's my spec prediction for next-gen consoles:

Xbox two
CPU: Zen2 8 cores, 16 threads, 2,4 ghz
GPU: Navi 5TF, 30CU with 1300 Mhz clock, 570 radeon performance
Memory: 8GB Gddr5 Ram, 256-bit bus, 256 GB/s Bandwidth
Storage: 1TB NVMe drive
Launch: Fall 2020 300$

Xbox two+
CPU: Zen2 8 cores, 16 threads, 3,2 ghz
GPU: Navi 11,5TF, 60CU with 1500 Mhz clock, slightly above vega 64 performance
Memory: 16GB Gddr6 Ram, 256-bit bus, 448 GB/s Bandwidth
Storage: 1TB NVMe drive
Launch: Fall 2020 500$

Playstation 5
CPU: Zen2 8 cores, 16 threads, 2,8 ghz
GPU: Navi 9TF, 56CU with 1200-1300 Mhz clock, Vega 56 performance
Memory: 12GB Gddr6 Ram, 192-bit bus, 336 GB/s Bandwidth
Storage: 1TB NVMe or SSD drive
Launch: Spring 2020 400$

So far we seen CGI-Q make predictions and I got a pretty good idea of Pemalites prediction based on his comments here and previous ones, I hope others will make some predictions so we can see who wins. After GDC 2019 we will likely get a better clue what we can expect from next-gen consoles and hopefully leaks shortly after.

Is an SSD really a possibility?  Seems like something that most consumers wouldn't care as much about or give that much better performance considering the cost involved?  Considering how much more the box would cost to produce they would really be taking a hit either in the performance of more important parts for graphics or be taking a hit in price.  Over millions of units it saves a lot while really not sacrificing much performance.  Also isn't that the same amount of RAM as the XboxX (better type I know) while this machine is supposed to last through 2026 at least?  I know it's $100 cheaper than the X currently but that still would be short sighted to me.  I recall Sony doubling the RAM in PS4 shortly before they announced it from 4 to 8 and that was a huge increase over PS3

An SSD will make the OS faster and more responsive, load times in games will improve. But the main point with a SSD is to allow game developers create new gaming experiences which would otherwise not be possible with a slow mechanical drive.

About the price for NVMe or SSD drive, right now on newegg a 2TB laptop mechanical drive is 85$ (they will not go for desktop mechanical drive because of heat, vibrations and future slim version), a 1TB SSD is 103$ (cheapest one) and 1TB NVMe drive is 135$ (intel 660p). As you can see the prices are pretty close, but flash storage is predicted to fall between 20-50% this year. And so I believe 1TB flash storage will be cheaper than 2TB mechanical drive by end of this year. But if the price is to high for 1TB flash storage Microsoft and Sony will sacrifice Vram to make it affordable which I have in my speculation.

Now we have good folks here at Vgchartz, resetera and beyond3D almost everyone think next-gen will have 2TB mechanical drive, and some think it will come with some flash storage. But the simple fact is a 12GB Vram + Flash storage will obliterate a 16GB Vram + mechanical drive setup and with Amd:s High-bandwidth cache technology it will 3x obliterate the mechanical setup.

The reason for this is with Flash storage you get better usage from the Vram then a slow storage solution with high Vram as you always need to buffer a lot of asset ahead of time and this will just get worse in next-gen if we go mechanical drive again.

So we can pretty much be 100% certain next-gen will go with 1TB flash storage.

Intrinsic said:

Here's mine

PS5
CPU Zen2 8 cores 16 threads@ 3.2Ghz
GPU Navi 11.9TF, 72CU@1300Mhz
RAM 16GB GDDR6, 256 Bitbus, 512GB/s Bandwidth + 4GB LPDDR4 
STORAGE 240GB embedded Nand Flash Primary drive + 2TB HDD secondary
PRICE $399


XBOX 
CPU Zen2 8 cores 16 threads@ 3.5Ghz
GPU Navi 13.1TF, 72CU@1425Mhz
RAM 16GB GDDR6, 256 Bitbus, 512GB/s Bandwidth + 4GB LPDDR4 
STORAGE 240GB embedded Nand Flash Primary drive + 2TB HDD secondary
PRICE $399

XBOX Lite
CPU Zen2 8 cores 16 threads@ 3Ghz
GPU Navi 7.1TF, 56CU@1000Mhz
RAM 12GB GDDR6, 192 Bitbus, 384GB/s Bandwidth + 4GB LPDDR4 
STORAGE 120GB embedded Nand Flash Primary drive + 1TB HDD secondary
PRICE $299

 

Thats my take on things. First off I believe Navi is going to break that 64CU limitation and thus we end up with GPUs with twice the CU count in the PS4pro. There is more on this but thats a long story.

As for the Xbox I think everyone hearing multiple skus is getting it wrong. MS doesnt have to make something that is way more powerful than the PS5 they just have to make something that is marginally more powerful and thus they can scream most powerful console in the world like they want to. More importantly there is no way they start next gen having a console that is $100 more expensive than the PS5. They will wat to come in at the same price while being a touch more powerful. Especially if that $100 more only gets them 2TF extra..... no one sees HDD, and 2TF more compared to a 10/12TF box will be very hard to spot.

MS real trump card will be in also making a cheaper sku. Think of it as a 1080p/1440p console. Everyone seems to think MS is gonna come in high, I think they will come in low as having a console that is $100 cheaper than the PS5 will be way more impactful in NA (their strongest market) than any other strategy. And even in EU. 

With these specs even at $399 I expect sony and MS to be taking a slight loss per console sold. Around $40-$100 loss. And this is something else people seem not to consider. Sony will be willing to take a loss on their hardware, they are not stupid and probably will know more abut what MS is doing than anyone else..... and more s they can afford to. Makes n sense conceding performance t such an extent where there is a noticable difference between the two consoles. Furthermore, if the XB+ is similarly priced then it would be similarly specced or better specced but taking a bigger loss 

Dude this is what pretty much everyone is predicting :) but I think is just to optimistic if Microsoft and Sony goes for this kind of setup.

I would slightly lower the clock speed for the Cpus, remove the LPDDR ram and lower the TF numbers. I think this would be more reasonable. And if Sony and Microsoft goes for a hybrid storage solution I expect it to be 1TB mechanical drive + 64-124 GB of flash storage. I just don't see any reason to go for 240 GB flash storage unless for high speed.

Also I don't think we can expect Sony or Microsoft to take heavy losses on the next-gen consoles, moores law is simply dead, hardware components just don't fall in price as it used to. It's just to risky to take big losses out of the gate as they risk enduring those losses for a very long time.

Last edited by Trumpstyle - on 16 February 2019