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Pemalite on 08 February 2019
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HoloDust said:
Pemalite said:

I didn't mention anything about an APU or CPU.
But even a shitty AMD FX 6300 could probably do it.

Fact is... On the GPU side of the equation, you do not need twice the GPU performance to match a PS4.

I guess many folks forgot this (which was quite a surprise to me back then):

 

To be fair. I don't even remember them. Haha

Nate4Drake said:

 It's the 1st time I see this comparison, interesting.   So the GTX 750 Ti can perform better than the PS4 GPU ?  And what about graphics, IQ and effects ?

If you opened up the videos and went directly to the Youtube source... They say the games are using PS4 equivalent settings.

Bofferbrauer2 said:

AMD said that with the 7nm process, compared to 14nm, they can have either a 50% reduction in power consumption or 25% increase in performance. The One X is the pinnacle of console performance in 14nm, so 25% more would actually just be enough to reach the performance of a GTX 1070. Add in architectural improvements made with Navi and the console APUs can reach GTX 1080 performance, but that's about it.

And yeah I know that's not the price Sony and Microsoft would pay for them, just pointing out that high-end hardware is both thermally and financially out of reach for consoles.

The 7nm gains are actually bigger than that... However because 7nm is so young, they need to be conservative to keep yields in check.
A 7nm chip released in a couple of years time though should have reductions in power+increases in performance with a possible increase to density... Just like what happened with 14nm.

method114 said:

It's not by the end of 2020. Sony isn't going to choose the GPU at the end of 2020. They've already got the GPU at this point if they are releasing at the end of 2020.

And AMD would have had a working successor to Navi available for some time.

Cerebralbore101 said:
Pemalite said: 


At the moment though, not even my Xbox One X is doing graphics that my old Radeon RX 580 can't do... Let alone twice as good, so my point still stands... And I can compare them side by side!

I think the XB1X is a bad console. For anybody buying one I'd urge them to just spend a couple hundred more for a Ryzen 5 2600X/580 build.  But I have to admit that a PC with a 2600X/580 in it for $500 or less would take some serious corner cutting. 

It's not a bad buy per-say. It's just not hitting the heights you would expect from a graphics standpoint.
Partly that is due to the fact we are held back by the base Xbox One and Playstation 4... So developers build games for those systems, then just tack on expensive rendering techniques to push the Xbox One X/Playstation 4 Pro. - But the bulk of horsepower is usually dumped into resolution and framerate anyway.



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