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Wyrdness said:
eva01beserk said:

I did before. I even said that epic store not having offline play is a definitely a reason to not buy this game. Also that in the regions where the game is still the same price as steam without having the features. Then I was told the main problem with the whole thing is the anti consumer / anti competitive of the game being pulled only 2 weeks before released, while still being available for everyone at no extra cost on the same platform they still all own. I dint even considering that to be even a issue. It dosent even make sense to me to be upset about that. Hurts nobody and helps the devs.

You never actually presented any counter argument you simply said ok and never addressed what people put forward, even in this post here is a prime example of what I mean you're saying you don't consider it an issue with out saying why that's nothing more than a side step as it doesn't address how consumer choice of store has been taken away to push an inferior store because of money-hatting, it doesn't address how these practices are actually more akin to monopolies, it doesn't address the force used of ES for those who pre-ordered physical, it doesn't address how those who may be using linux are now forced to wait no matter what, it doesn't address how if someone prefers a certain controller they're either forced to not use it or have to wait as well etc....

These are objective things that you and others taking your stance have simply not addressed yet still want to argue the other side's case which is why you saying it hurts nobody while never addressing objective points is a bit off. It doesn't even help the devs either as the extra $2 a sale goes only to the publisher and as Titanfall showed such handling of a game can not only affect sales but also have a knock on effect on the series.

You just dont want to accept what Im saying. Even in what Im saying wich I said multiple times by now, I have never rejected anything of what you have said. I have agreed to pretty much most of what you and others have presented. I barely have any counter arguments as I agree with most. Just think that the reaction is blown out of proportion.

Is this money hatting akin to a monopoly? yes I believe it is. How does it affect users at the end? Can you not buy the game? Does it cost more? on this point alone, since there are no consequences at all for the consumer, its so far not an issue. Just a bit of preference.

Epic sucking and lacking features. Again, agree. The one and only thing for me is that It cant play offline. Said this multiple times. talking for myself here but I would not buy an online only game. ever. And this game is single player if there is no way that I would consider that reasonable to play a single player game and be required to always be online.

Thouse who preorder physical not getting getting a digital code now, thats definitely bad. Agree with you again. Of this I dont know anything really. If steam promised a disc and epic now said no you are not getting one, that would be really crappy. Talking for myself here, but for me that is unacceptable, Im physical only so I would demand a refund. Something tells me thats not a big number for PC gamers. Not that im saying its acceptable because its few people.

The linux argument is the first time I hear it on this, unless I skiped it. Im to guess then that epic store does not work on linux yet. If true then again, I say that is crappy. Good reason to not buy a game.

Epic not using preferred controller, first time hearing it again. If true thats not good. Its not a dealbreaker by any means for me, but I can see how it could be for some.

When you say choice of store, Im guessing its because your choice of store would affect the things your getting like the stated above. If thats it, then yea, thats a good reason as well. Where everything to remain the same and its just go to this store over that one, the it would be fine, wich I know thats not the case.

Of the things you mentioned I have nothing to disagree with you about. I have somethings I dont agree with the rest wich Im tired of saying and people just bring up arguments im not even disagreeing with. But if you could stop lumping me with every other poster that you dont agree with and just believe Im saying the same, then we could advance.

What im actually against.

The main issue, wich is the point of this thread. The comment of the dev that people are reading a threat. I dont see what the guys said as an ultimatum like most think it is. To me some guy worried and upset for the reaction they are getting for something thats out of their hands. I dont think they should get all this hate for something done by their publisher and epic. 

I dont agree with the review bomb of the other 2 metro games. Like that makes any sense. like chazore said above, its one of the only ways a regular joe can give his opinion. But again, its an opinion of the quality of the game, not what you perceive of the devs/publishers/epic. They are ruining one of the only ways for people to give an opinion of a game by basically bringing politics into something that should only be about the quality of the game, specially really old games that have nothing to do with whats happening now. 

The game being pulled from the store 2 weeks before releasing. Again, not a good thing and I definetly dont side with them for doing this. But this affects consumers so little that I really dont think thats an issue. You can still get the game on the same hardwar, just a difernt store front.

 

 



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