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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
flashfire926 said:
Man, gamers act so entitled sometimes...

You know, kerotan is actually right on this one. This is how it's gonna be from now on. More storefronts giving competition to Steam, with the monopoly it had no longer remaining.

I think you missed the point. The people who are upset in this thread are upset for pretty valid reasons. No one (at least not that I've read) is complaining about Steam getting competition. What's being complained about is the way in which a platform like the Epic Game Store is doing it. Any time someone wants to make a point in favor of Epic Game Store they inevitably bring up that Steam is a "monopoly", because no one would dare argue in favor of a monopoly. But really, for a company which has had a stranglehold on PC gaming for a long time now, it's pretty incredible how in-favor of consumers Steam has been with it's storefront. They may not have rates as good as the Epic Game Store, but the reality is that consumers fight for their interests in the same way publishers and developers do. They will always pick the choices which they think are best for them, and that's not being "entitled". There's nothing entitled about being upset when a company takes a game away from a storefront two weeks before it launches and makes it exclusive to another storefront that doesn't even let you play offline without having to modify a game's files. 

Someone who actually understands the situation, without having to resort to calling the opposite group "entitled" all the time. It really does help in discussions to not call the opposite group, the ones who are suffering frustrations, as "entitled", it really does go a long way. 

I wouldn't have minded if Epic had all the same features Steam had, as well as developing their own games, rather than dropping them for one billion dollar micro transaction pumping game. I'd be all for them if they didn't resort to buying up games and locking them to their storefront. I'd be all for them if they even took GoG's approach, you know, that all PC gamers aspire other clients to follow suit.

The thing that some forget is, is that Steam isn't a monopoly, having a monopoly means having the vast majority of the market locked tight, but Steam doesn't even have that, since we've got games on:

Itch

Discord

Epic

Uplay

Origin

Battle.net

Bethesda.net

GoG

Win 10 store

And Steam itself, which makes for a total of 10 stores. You could even try counting in Humble bundle, which sells keys from said stores, but that's besides the point. The major thing I've noticed over the years, from those who are harsh on Steam, seemingly forget that all those other storefronts hardly ever bother with their own games, enticing users to use their clients more often, giving devs their own 88% cut (consoles included). Instead we're met with "you're entitled/All those features don't matter/Those stores were built years ago, but they'll come around eventually, just you wait and see". All of those latter reasons do is make for both poor arguments and a major faulty and arrogant misunderstanding of what the people going against Epic are talking about. 

The people that misunderstand all of this on purpose, and then follow up with condemning those who vent frustration, are actually the ones entirely in the wrong here, because they refuse to understand the situation, go onward to belittle those voicing said frustration and then calling their issues as "non issues", which doubly doesn't help anyone, but show us that the group not having the issues as being childish and arrogant. Those that understand and see what's going on, but don't throw away wisdom and logic are perfectly fine and decent people. 

Last edited by Chazore - on 31 January 2019

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