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Chazore said:
Azzanation said:

Ouch.. a full year? Console it is than i guess.

Hopefully Valve starts fighting back and offering there customers like myself more incentives to use there service. With Win10 Store and Epic Store only going to improve and offer exclusives hopefully Valve does the same. Black Mesa Xen needs to remain a Steam Exclusive, if Valve put that game on other platforms than they are slapping themselves in the face.

I hope they don't, because the last thing we need is console war exclusivity running rampant across storefronts. 


Also, no, the WIn 10 store hasn't improved yet, and isn't offering me incentives to play there. until they catch up to Steam and provide me with all the features Steam has, games and all, only then would I consider possibly using it. 

Hopefully Valve just do what they do and create games, while offering more features and games that anyone can play anywhere else, you know to give us choices, something which exclusivity fans fail to see. 

Kerotan said:

Well you the people screamed at Valve many times and got them to change many things so if Valve get credit for change so do Epic. I will give epic time to implement changes and improvements before judging them. 

 

They jumped quickly into the BR market by changing Fortnite and adding that mode. It launched pretty bare bones but they got to work and a year later not only did it take over that genre and become a global phenom but it also added many changes improving it over it's initial offering. If they can act as quickly with this new pc store they could take over the game. 

Yeah mate I have to disagree they're not just using their FN money to buy exclusivity they are doing it to aggressively get a foothold in the market. STEAM isn't an easy nut to crack so I can't blame them for their approach. 

 

Personally I hope they succeed and I hope Twitch shake things up even more. 

Valve improved themselves over time without everyone having to scream day in and day out, but with Epic it's an entirely different matter. You weren't there for all the times Valve introduced new features, both requested and non requested, so no, it's not exactly the same. 

Epic doesn't get the credit because they were supposed to launch their store with all the same features Steam has, that's how it actually works believe it or not. You get no excuses to not include something the competition has been sporting for years. mjk45's example holds true whether you want to accept it or not. 

They didn't jump in, they changed it because Tecent gave them that advice, after having bought out a decent amount of their company shares. Their original game took 6+ years to create, and it didn't even make a dent when it was released day 1. They spent years not bothering to market it as much as well. They've also cancelled their Moba game, as well as their PC mainstay Unreal Tournament. Meanwhile, Valve are still running with their card game, which has lost users, but at least they didn't actively kill two games with one stone. They are still creating games, while Epic rest on their laurels with a casual based game. 

Their "save the world" mode is still being worked and yet with the billions of MT money, they still cba hiring the staff needed to finish it asap, but instead they put more focus onto the money making machine, rather than the original game itself, that shows you how little they are about their games. They can't even be arsed to revive their two recently put down titles either, and they have more than enough money to spare reviving them for fans. 

Nah, Epic won't "take over the game", they've proven that they want to cater to devs, not consumers. They only cater to Fornite kids and adults with time to burn, but they don't care about fans from anywhere else, not even their moba/UT fans. 

Disagree all you want mate, but they are fighting a war they will lose, and lose it rightfully so. personally I hope they fail and learn a harsh lesson. 

The pc world ain't black and white anymore mate. A console like war is coming whether you like it or not. All those things you said about EPIC not bothering to make games for their fans. Well Valve have some of the most loved IP's ever and lord Gaben can't be arsed splashing his billions developing them. There's so much potential there but the success of STEAM made them lazy as devs. I hope the coming war does 2 things. 

1. Forces STEAM to stop ripping off devs when they don't even package the hardware the vast majority of their users play on. 

2. Spend just a fraction of their billions and start ramping up production of their IP's again.