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zorg1000 said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

In your original reply you just said "consoles" and not "home consoles".  That is why I bring up the PSP and Vita.

Furthermore my first post was pointing out that people seemed to have learned nothing since the PS3 days.  Before the PS3 launched, Sony really did seem invincible.  They had made no missteps, and it was too early to tell how the PSP was going to do.  Now, it should be obvious that Sony is not invincible.  They CAN lose.  In fact they lose 50% of the time against Nintendo.  Betting on the PS5 before it is even announced is the equivalent to betting on a coin flip.  That is MY point.  People have learned nothing. 

I don't mean to take away from the PS4's success, because that is a legitamate success.  But in the first few posts people are already predicting PS5 success based on absolutely nothing.  Their track record is an illusion.  Sony will not automatically do well just because they are Sony.  They lose to Nintendo 50% of the time.

That is where common sense comes in handy. If I say 3/4 consoles sold over 100 million that how could I possibly be referring to anything other than their home consoles?

And again Sony handhelds are irrelevant when talking about their home consoles so no they have not lost 50% of the time to Nintendo. PS5 will not be a handheld so bringing up how PSP/Vita lost DS/3DS is pointless.

The handheld market is relevant, because the PS5 will be competing against a handheld, the Switch.  That is why it is relevant that Sony loses 50% of the time to Nintendo.

More importantly, quite a few people still like to hold on to this delusion that Sony is invincible when it comes to gaming.  They are definitely not invincible.