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Azzanation said:

Your problem is you are basing this on "Who's doing it first" rather than who's actually going to do it right.

But just for giggles, What do you think MS were doing with the original intentions of the X1. All Digital console, always online, DRM, Game sharing etc. Don't feed me this BS that Sony thought of this first, its been in the mindsets of MS and many other brands for many years before Sony started PSNow. Did you choose to ignore MS's slogan of "The Power of the Cloud" I heard that back before this gen even started. Sony brought Gaikai for $380m awhile back, and Sony are able to get into Streaming earlier due to there smaller network in Gaikai.

You can say I am bias, good for you. I am looking at the companies as a whole. MS has been building a world wide Cloud Streaming service for many years that has cost MS over $30billion (Half of what Sony is worth) just in Azure Cloud. That isn't something they planned overnight.. that's something they were doing before this generation even started. 

Sony's PSNow is doing okay, and the profits are looking great for Sony, good on them, BUT Netflix of Gaming? Well I might agree with you if I can actually gain access to it, something iv been waiting years for and there's no sign this is coming any time soon either. But as it stands right now, its a average Streaming service with limited accessibilities but is definitely playable.

Why I agree with MS and there claims is based on there services and network, it actually makes sense when you look into there history through out the years. That's been there plan all along and they have a network that can take the world by storm if done right, not some of the world which is what PSNow is doing. 

And your problem is that you are basing this all off on "potential" as opposed to actual action.

I never said sony did it first, hell sony bought gaikai who were doing this and basically used that as the basis of their streaming backbone (PSVue, PSshare and PSnow). 

Now I never also said that MS may not end up doing it better, but right now that is not the case. PSnow is simply a more mature version right now of the very service MS is pushing with gamepass. And that has more to do with sony having done this very specific thing for longer than MS.

If we are looking purely at potential, playstation shouldn't even exist as long as MS is in gaming. MS simply has more money and resources and a far better grip on software than sony will ever have. Android shouldn't exist because MS was making mobile OSs long before android became a thing.... and neither should iOS. 

I don't know what it is or why, but for all their knowhow, talk, promises and potential MS has historically and repeatedly come late to the party on every single tech innovation over the last 20yrs. Hell even nvidia started a streaming service before MS got in on it too. At one point MS didnt even consider gaming as somethin they should even pursue..... I mean just look no further than steam. That is the single biggest slap to the face of MS that there is and something that should make you think twice at lookin at MS (of all companies) when it comes to potential.

So feel free to make whatever connections you want on how much potential and resources MS has t make a  go of it. I on the other hand will believe more on what I can see right now.

And the fact of the matter is this, how ever bad you think PSnow is because of the regions they are in or the quality of their service....... right now Gamepass is worse.  I honestly cant even believe you are having a debate with me over something that can be vs something that already is. Like there is so much more to this tha wht you seem to be focused n.

I mean lets look at market penetration. If streaming based gaming is to become a major thing (and I dont think it will) and both sony and MS are offerin an identical service with identical third party support and their own influx of exclusive software, who do you think will do better globally? Or let me be more specific, who do you think will do better in EU and Japan?

Last edited by Intrinsic - on 25 January 2019