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JRPGfan on 20 January 2019
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DrDoomz said:

Personally, I have not seen a single convincing argument against the wall and why Democrats hate it so much.

Is it a $6B waste of money? Fine. Leverage it against programs you want passed. If it fails, not only did you get the programs you want, you also made the Repubs look dumb. Defund its maintenance costs once it is proven that a wall is completely ineffective in preventing illegal immigration.

If the large immoral expenditures of money is the problem, maybe fight against more military spending? The hundreds of billions spent on actual machines made to kill other ppl? The wall is a passive defensive structure, it is as about as unethical as the lock on your door.

Is it because it’ll work? Is stopping (edit. not completely of course) illegal immigration the actual problem? Wouldn’t streamlining the immigration process solve that? Isn’t that something that can be easily leveraged at this point? Build the wall but open the door.

I would love to hear actual simplified arguments at this point. So far, as far as I can see, the wall looks like it can be turned into a win-win for both sides if they only stop fighting and hating each other.

Im not a US citizen so excuse me if Im not 100% on all this but....

I think it has to do with people did some calculations and those 6$ Bn are about a 3rd of the actual price needed to do what he said, along the entire distance. After all why build just part of a wall some place? people could just walk around it if if you dont do it the entire stretch.

also it has to do with the wall itself.... you can easy saw through it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB-fv2aK8t4

The department of homeland security themselves tested these walls, that Trump wants to build and say its meaningless.

Also walls will need manpower to protect it & repair, because as is, its basically not going to do anything to prevent immigration or drug smugling.
That costs too, the 6$ bn is waaaaay to little, it ll end up costing much more.


So basically the dems are saying, there are smarter ways to use money to prevent immigration or drug smugling.
Which is probably true. They see it as just throwing money out the window.'

 

However Trump ran his campagne on this lie, that a wall would fix everything.
So he needs to get some kinda wall buildt, if he wants to run for president again.

Thats all it is, its a meaningless waste of money, so he has a chance to get re-elected.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 20 January 2019