Bungie splits with Activision, keeps Destiny IP

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Chazore said:

eva01beserk said:

I dont think he is actually downplaying indie games. He is saying that they are not really the reason why somebody buys a gaming console or gaming pc. Also while an indie game could be great, no doubt about that, but when a AAA is great there really is no comparison. Thats why like him, I also dont believe an indie game should be consider as GOTY.

Like The other guy said as well, Great indie games are like lightning in a bottle. Its really a rare chance that an indie game gets all this praise. And even afterwards its not like people flock to buy it aside from minecrat. But AAA get at least one amazing game every year at least. Its just easier to reach what you imagined when you have the time, recourses and man power to make it real. again, not downplaying indies, just saying its easier for AAA to achieve greatness. 

Do tell, since we like to use the Steam survey as the gospel of *all* PC hardware (when I know, not sure if you do, that it isn't actually true), what do they build a PC for?. Surely not "just AAA games"?. What about games like KCD, you know, a game that was made by a studio that isn't regarded as being AAA?. What about Subnautica?, or games that can be modded, that are both indie and AA/AAA?.

I think indie games should be considered up for GOTY. It should never be limited to "AAA" games, that's just a narrow minded and arrogant way of looking at things. 

It's not incredibly rare though. We get all sorts of indie games that either sell well or turn heads. When I said "lightning in a bottle" iI meant a good combo that really, and I mean really turned heads, not "once in a blue moon". Each year we manage to get a good indie game or more. Maybe not to you, but to thousands if not millions of other gamers worldwide. 

No, not downplaying indies, but making them appear far less important and popular, and making AAA seem more popular and important, thus making them more prominent over indie games, despite evidence pointing to the opposite. 

Indie games achieve greatness as well, but AAA's in recent years have shown that they aren't always AAA, maybe in budget, but lacking premium pristine quality and obviously having to rely on what indie devs have had to over the years, even mobile games. 

Dude stop with the straw man. Specially the building pc thing. WHere the hell did that come from? I think you can take any argument about anything and turn it into an anti pc thing.

I will give you one thing in that I should not have said that indies should not be considered for GOTY. I just think when an indie is being considered for GOTY, reviewers seem to ignore a bunch of limitation. Like Big AAA get bombarded when they have a super short story, no story, or just crappy. Indies get a pass and they say, look how great the story was for such a small studio. Things like features, just look a pubg, it got praised to hell and all it had was battle royal with a single map. Imagine if Battlefield or COD came out like that. Call of duty received hell for ditching the single player story. Fallout gets dumped on for looking the same as previous entrys, but indies can be 2d an everybody looses their mind(insert joker meme here). Im just saying indies have to get a pass on so many things in consideration for their budget and/or size while AAA dont. If they are as great they should be scrutinized like all other games.