| KingofTrolls said: Kinda nope, the previous supplier for AMD 14nm FF was GloFo, but AMD got a back up options with Samsung/TSCM just in case the GloFo will not be able to meet the demand. |
So you disagree that AMD works with the fabs, that they choose certain types of transistor/libraries to optimize their design for low power/high frequency and so on in order for AMD to optimize their design for any given process?
As for supplier, that's ultimately irrelevant to the entire prior point. If you think Samsung/TSMC/Global Foundries only offered 14/16nm and that is it... Then you are highly mistaken.
There is a reason why things like 14nm Finfet Low Power Plus/14nm Finfet Low Power Compact/14nm Finfet Low Power Ultimate and more exist... And there is reason why even those have variations... And why even things like patterning are taken into account to skew things even farther.
In short, characteristics of a Transistor can change depending on how it's structured (I.E. Taller fins.), various metals like Germanium, Aluminium, Polysilicon and more all have effects on a Transistors frequency and power consumption characteristics.
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/238896-samsung-announces-new-high-performance-high-power-14nm-node-plans-10nm-improvements-shows-off-7nm-euv-wafer
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/190946-stop-obsessing-over-transistor-counts-theyre-a-terrible-way-of-comparing-chips
https://www.anandtech.com/show/2937/7
| KingofTrolls said: Some months ago GloFo announced they simply cease 7nm process and focus on 12nm, so AMD turned to TSCM, and that makes them a problem or two. |
And?
| KingofTrolls said: More over, the AMD got problems with GloFo in 2011-2012, the problems were so big that AMD simply cancelled Deccan in one move. |
There is still options, just options that aren't acceptable to AMD. - I am just wondering, what is your point?
| KingofTrolls said: As for Vega, it was already delayed,so... |
According to 2016 information... Vega was supposed to launch in 2017, with a refresh in 2018.
And the information was that AMD was attempting to launch in 2016 if they could get their Vega ducks in a row... But that was a rumor.
And of course, we got Vega in 2017 and a Vega Refresh in 2018, the 2018 variant ended up being a professional part, the consumer part dropping in 2019 which ended up being rebadged as a consumer variant anyway, so technically Vega wasn't delayed.
Navi is still on track for it's 2019 window AFAIK.
https://wccftech.com/amd-vega-10-gpu-hbm2-q4-2016-professional/
| KingofTrolls said: We talk about the next gens we know nothing official about, no specs, no release date, no price etc, we talk about tech that we know only thanks to an infographics, and it is YOU basing anything on actual known factoids ? And u are lecturing me, when I make it clear and simple that I am predicting ? Whats wrong with u? |
Nothing is wrong with me. I am merely stating that "predicting" something cannot be asserted as something that is factual.
I might also ask you to refrain from taking personal jabs going forward. Cheers.
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