Bungie splits with Activision, keeps Destiny IP

[Chazore]

DonFerrari said:

Yes congratulations on finding exceptions wooooohooo.

 

Of course indie devs will celebrate their own sales, which still doesn't make it a reason people buy Switch.

Stop trying to make strawman. You are going to lenghts to defend PC gaming when the subject is about the type of game and level of budget Bungie do, that big publishers with games on all platforms are less likely to be the highest quality so there would be merit on Bungie doing an exclusive game to make it great because the platform holder could give them the money and accept the risk without putting a lot of monetization on it. And since you can't counter it you go on and on with "you are hating PC". If Bungie sign with MS or Nintendo and make a great game there I wouldn't see any problem, they made Halo great and I never bothered with it. With ton of games being made I don't have any fear of being left behind. I prefer they make the best game they can even If I won't play than make something boring or compromised that I could play but wouldn't want.

We never had to relly on the big 3 to make games, even more when most of the biggest sellers are 3rd parties multiplats. But we are exactly discussing that nowadays the biggest 3rd party publisher are the ones who push more and more for anti-consumer practices. So Bungie going from Acti to Ubi or EA wouldn't make much better on the complains of microtransactions. Nor would anyone on here be please if Bungie decides to make a smartphone f2p with the funding and pressure from Chineses.

 

GOTY certainly isn't limited to AAA, hence Celeste participate (and didn't win). But tell me, how do GoW, RDR2 and Spider-Man compare to Celeste for you?

Baddman said:
lol @downplaying Celeste because it's an indie game...or not high budget. Id bet they didn't sing that same tune when journey was getting tons of praise and awards

Why don't you lol @ confusing the topic on companies being capable to finance Bungie as publisher with the quality of Indies that Chazore brought exclusively to defend how great PC gaming is?

1. Exceptions?. No, those aren't exceptions, those are the norm now. Indie games have been here since gaming began, only there was a period where they drastically shrank and become "unpopular" for a time, but now they are back and stronger and more in number than ever before. 

2. Of course they do, because it's on a device that's still relatively new and seemingly having less total users than the other two consoles, yet their games are selling far more on that system than the other two combined, sometimes even with PC thrown in as well, and that speaks volumes. People have all sorts of reasons to buy a Switch you know, it's not "AAA or bust" mentality.

3. No, not really. You're the one pulling one by limiting it to a spectrum you think holds a majoritarian sway over the entire industry. I'm not even "defending" PC gaming at this point, I'm actually trying to talk about indie games, which you probably haven't noticed us talking about for a while now. Don't know why talking about good indie games needs to count somehow as "defending" PC gaming. 

We already know about the budget, and Hellblade has shown that it doesn't need to be blown to insane lengths, like with GTA V and RDR2. I think you're just trying to limit a budgeted game to being a console exclusive, and yet you accuse me of "£defending" PC gaming, yet you're defending some imaginary "right" to have something locked to a closed off box. I can understand if said closed off box had high end hw, had a control scheme that wasn't accessible to multiple platforms, but consoles don't have that route to take. They also don't make your games either. 

"Since you can't counter it"?. It's been countered hundreds of times before, it's called self funding, consumer funded, third party funded, and hell, as Bungie have shown us, outside of the industry funded. It's been proven time and time again that multiple games can be funded and on various levels, hell Star Citizen is still being worked on and it's been able to amass an insane amount of funding, both from consumers and other parties. It's not some bullshit warped reasoning of "Oh, consoles are the only thing that can ever fund AAA, so they deserve to be exclusive". 

Dude, you hate on PC by showing it. You talk so low about the platform, I haven't seen you once giving good kudos to the platform at all, even though that platform makes your damn games. You owe everything to the computer making your console and games possible, as without it, we'd have nothing. If you give kudos now, it's only because I've pointed it out, even if you so much as have to "recollect" a mention from years prior, because it's only had to be brought up because I've pointed it out. If you never "hated", you'd mention it without me having to tell you, that's how it works.

You seem to have a problem with an outside source funding Bungie, because it's proven that we don't need any of the big 3 to make a game possible, even for AAA or AA. You seem to have a fear of being denied something to be made exclusive to you though. I on the other hand, do not mind my games going to other systems. 

4. No, but the way you push this narrative that it needs "big funding" makes it awfully close to "we need the big 3, because they always know when and how to lock it to their box", and you know full well that not all 3rd parties pull that, because they want as much money as possible, and that isn't always found by locking it to one box, ergo, 1st parties want it exclusive.

Not sure what anti-consumer practices have to do with GOTY awards or funding my dude. Micro trans are here to stay, and they are employed by many, many devs/studios by now. China can fund what it wants, you have zero say on what they can and cannot do, and as much as I'm not a fan of China's ethic, I'd rather they fund for something, than it being any of the big 3. I'd rather an emerging market give the first party a massive run for their money, because competition is good remember?. 

5. Yes, believe it or not, indie games can hold a lot over AAA games. I still find Minecraft and it's possibilities as being far better than some crappy scripted CGI events, or narrow corridor areas.

6. Dude, you're playing the card so easily right now. Why not knock it off for a change?. I own a Switch, 3DS, N3DS and a 360 you know.