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Darc Requiem said:
Sort of reminds me of when AMD when full bore into multiple core CPUs while Intel focused more on single thread performance. AMD gambled that multiple cores would be the future. The gamble didn't pay off for them. By the time multi core CPUs matter, their old CPUs weren't up to the task. That's what I see for the RTX lineup.

That doesn't mean AMD doens't need to step their game up. They absolutely do. Nvidia has moved up the pricing for GPUs with modest performance improvements. If AMD doesn't step it up, maybe Intel's upcoming GPUs will bring us more competition.

Are you talking about the Bulldozer line? That wasn't really a gamble... AMD projected that Multi-threaded Integer performance would be the important factor for the markets it wanted to chase in the future. (Servers and Data centers.)
Gotta' keep in mind that Opteron was killing it for a long time... So AMD wanted to keep increasing their marketshare.

In that... Bulldozer was actually not a bad design, but when it came to consumer workloads which typically favored floating point math, the architecture fell down.

Obviously, AMD stuffed up... It was their Netburst moment... And Zen is their Core moment that turns it all around.

AMD would have been better off taking their Stars architecture, bringing it to a smaller node and increase core counts and clockrates... I had a Phenom 2 x6 1090T on release day... And once you overclock those chips to 4ghz with a 3ghz NB clock... And fed it with some really fast, low-latency DRAM... FX couldn't touch it.

Then I wen't LGA2011 and left AMD behind.

If AMD, nVidia or Intel do not have a product with compelling price/performance/power consumption/features... Don't reward them with your wallet, same thing goes for any tech product, even consoles.
At the moment, the only reason I would ever recommend Polaris is because of price/performance, nVidia's Turing isn't exactly cheap to purchase.

Vega 7 is just laughable on all fronts unless you have workload that can utilize 16GB of DRAM... AMD needs to undercut nVidia on price if it's not going to have feature parity.



caffeinade said:
KingofTrolls said:

All the trails leads to Navi/Vega in next gens what is good enough. i dont believe it was just a coincidence that Phil announecs collab on next Xbox at the VII presentation. Basically, it is Vega on 7nm, what is what next gens will have to, and  Vega was never planned to hit 7nm, Navi was, so...

Navi, is rumored to be developed with close collab with Sony. AMD has rich story with semi-custom things.

We've known about 7nm for Vega for quite some time now.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12233/amd-tech-day-at-ces-2018-roadmap-revealed-with-ryzen-apus-zen-on-12nm-vega-on-7nm/9
This was nearly a whole year ago.

We can go farther back to 2016.
https://wccftech.com/amd-vega-gpu-navi-gpu-hbm2-2017-2018/




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