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drinkandswim on 09 January 2019
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DonFerrari said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Xbox 360 launched a year before the PS3, but the 360 sales in the first full year after the PS3 launch went up also, so by your own conclusion Playstation isn't competing with Xbox either. Nobody is competing with nobody, folks, just got the proof here!

It doesn't matter if a console makes record sales the year a competitor launches, they still share the same market. Most probably even more would have bought a PS4 by now if the Switch hadn't launched, so Switch is giving some competition and share the same market. What they don't share is the same angle unlike the Xbox One. Even apart from the portability, Games on the Switch tend to be different to those on the PS4, which allows for some cohabitation between the two (hence why Nintendo is often called a "secondary" console) - but someone who wants to buy a console still has to decide which one they want to buy between those available. And when someone has both a Switch and another console, they have to decide for which platform they'll buy games.

Also, just look here on the forums and you'll find plenty of threads and posts of people who prefer some game on a platform over another - and most of the recent ones are about Switch version instead of PS4 or XBO. That alone shows that they are all in on the same market and compete all with each other. Also how many posts and threads are there from people who bought a Switch and then their former main console suddly became mostly a dust collector? I don't know, but there were plenty in the last year and a half.

To not go on lenght with your reach argument (as before this gen most consoles have launched in different years) PS2+Xbox close to PS3+X360 close to PS4+X1, which show that if one of they dropped from the market the other would greatly gain.

Do you think PS4 would have sold 35M this year if Switch didn't launch? Or Perhaps Xbox would sell 25M? Or what split would PS4 and X1 receive from Switch not launching?

And sorry to open your eyes, but forum aren't a representation of reality.

I mean if you are saying the markets don't completely overlap I agree. I wouldn't expect to see a complete displacement of sales. 3DS actually has seen the biggest hit from Nintendo Switch, but it was necessary to be replaced on the market as it is at the end of its life cycle. PS4 probably saw about a 10% hit in hardware sales from Switch, 10% to software, and 10% to accessories. Probably slightly higher for Microsoft. Even though their sales are flat YOY they would have higher numbers. Maybe 15-20% higher. I expect that percentage to increase this year, but it depends on what kind of price drops there are. Switch didn't even have a great 2018 from a Software release standpoint minus the Holiday season. And even that was light they just had some really big sellers.