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zorg1000 said:
Farsala said:

S Model and Kinect is a price difference, since the S Model has more HDD. And you don't mention other markets. Also worth mentioning heavy value bundles started late gen, further increasing the price gap of 360 early and late years. Black Friday became bigger due to major (temporary) price cuts. Kinect and S model helped, but price was the biggest factor imo.

PS2 did well against those high price points at the start of the gen.

~5 years after launch 360 had all the price points, including a £149.99 model (and other currencies) which was unseen before, allowing them to peak.

I didnt mention other markets because sales were poor/mediocre outside of US/UK and we dont have annual UK sales before 2011.

Black Friday discounts & bundles is a valid point but without the S model & Kinect their affect would have been much weaker and we would have continued to see further declines to sales that began in 2009.

More HDD however isnt very relevant because they had increased storage space on the original model every year.

We disagree on why it sold so well late in life. Obviously both S model (with price cuts) and kinect had an impact but I think the price cuts (and games of course) would have kept it from being down YoY regardless.

More HDD definitely was a price cut though. PRO to Elite to S

Xbox Pro $399 60 gb (2008) to XBOX Elite $399 250gb (2009) and then XBOX S $299 250gb (2010) with the option of $399 320gb special editions.

First was a 190gb upgrade and then a full $100 price cut with the launch of the XBOX S.