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FloatingWaffles said:
TheMisterManGuy said:

But somewhere around the Wii U and 3DS era, Nintendo began playing it safe with the Mario pantheon. Not only did Mario's main platforming games reverted to just using a generic Mario obstacle course style

I'm curious about this part. Those games (Super Mario 3D Land and Super Mario 3D World) were literally them trying something new with combining elements of both 2D Mario and 3D Mario, something which hadn't been done before, but yet you claim it was them reverting? Is that not what you're asking for with this thread, for them to try new stuff and take more risks? Or are we back to "those aren't real 3D Mario games" again....

Also, generic? Not only is that ignoring a lot of the creativity it had but it's also not true.

It's only 4 points behind Odyssey.....

Well it was basically a 2D Mario game in a 3D environment, which isn't what people expect from a 3D Mario title.

And yeah, only 4 points behind Odyssey, but also Galaxy and Galaxy 2, which all 3 scored 97, around other games considered greatest games ever made. It may sound silly but if Nintendo can't reach the sky with their biggest franchises (Mario and Zelda), it's not a good sign.